Eric Schmidt: Android Is Clearly Beating Apple In Mobile Platform Wars

(9:41 am PDT, Dec 12th 2012)

Eric Schmidt: Android Is Clearly Beating Apple In Mobile Platform Wars

In the battle of the mobile platform wars, Android has been extending its lead over Apple’s iOS platform at a steady rate for over a year. Google’s Chairman Eric Schmidt believes that the battle between Android and iOS is similar to Microsoft’s desktop expansion in the 1990s.

Schmidt say down with Bloomberg to talk about the mobile war with Apple and said that with 1.3 million new Android devices being activated per day,  he thinks it’s pretty obvious that Android is winning now.

In his interview, Eric Schmidt said,

“This is a huge platform change; this is of the scale of 20 years ago — Microsoft versus Apple. We’re winning that war pretty clearly now.

The core strategy is to make a bigger pie. We will end up with a not perfectly controlled and not perfectly managed bigger pie by virtue of open systems.”

The Android operating system is given to hardware partners for free, with Google hoping the sacrifice will drive demand for ads and other Internet-based services in the future. The latest analysis of the mobile wars show that Google’s strategy seems to be working. According to Gartner Inc, Android enjoys a 72 percent share of the market while Apple only has 14 percent.

While discussing social networking, Schmidt claims that Google+ now has over 100 million active users and that it’s a “viable competitor to Facebook.” Schmidt’s hour-long interview also touched on topics such as taxes, the economy, and other competitors like Amazon and Netflix. To get the full run down, head over to Bloomberg.

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  • http://twitter.com/dtourond Devon

    Is it bad that I concentrated more on the typo than the actual article (“Schmidt say down with Bloomberg”).

  • aardman

    Google’s control over Android isn’t as firm as they think. They do not have the control over it that Microsoft has over DOS/Windows. In fact, it can be snatched away from them just like MS snatched control of the IBM-PC market from IBM. They already have no control over Kindle, if Samsung starts to dwarf all other Android devices, I could easily see Samsung forking Android and going on their own merry way with most of the Android market. At the very least, even without forking it, the power relation with Google will tilt greatly in their favor.

  • http://www.mygossip565.com/ Jason

    Apple always wins battles but they never win wars!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steffen-Jobbs/100001574843303 Steffen Jobbs

      Android is definitely winning the race to the bottom of the porcelain bathroom fixture. It’ll cross the finish line with one more flush.

  • bdkennedy11

    “Hi, Larry? Somehow Eric got out of his cage again. Can you come pick him up? Yeah he’s been giving another delusional interview.”

  • Geib

    What a clown, omg!

  • Ndellos

    The open system does leave a major hole for hackers to try to make a name for themselves by crashing everyone’s contact list or some such nonsense.

  • NutjobNumber1

    What’s funny is that the data they are using is PRE-iPhone 5 data, since the iPhone 5 introduction, Apple has been cleaning up in the US and Apple STILL hasn’t turned on all of their markets yet. They just inked a deal to sell through T-Mobile, they haven’t started selling in China, YET. So the numbers they are using a VERY misleading. Typical Google over hype and misleading the readers.

    • The__Truth__Hurts

      Funny, how suddenly, now the iPhone 5 is getting $50 cuts, and how you can buy iPhones with no limited 1 month early what Apple said.

      Yet, countless of Android phones and windows Phones are sold out, near impossible to get hold off, and are selling in massive quantities.

      But of course, NOBODY wants Android phones or Windows Phones. They all want iPhones!

      And that perfectly explains that why the iPhone loyalty rate has declined! about a 7% drop in the states, and numerous countries, the iPhone loyalty rate has decline from say… 90% to under 70%.

      • NutjobNumber1

        Sprint is the only carrier I know that’s getting $50 reduction, probably because most iPhone 5′s are going to AT&T and Verizon, plus they just started offering the unlocked phones. Where are countless Android and Windows phones sold out? PROVE IT. I know they are offering 2 for 1 for S III’s since their sales dropped off after the iPhone 5 got announced.

        Your numbers don’t sound right. We’ll see what the REAL numbers are in the States after the quarter is over and then we’ll find out what’s going on in other countries, China being the bigger one after the March quarter since that will be more accurate.

        Either way, Apple’s selling more iPhone 5′s than they sold 4S’s by a long shot and that’s all they need to concern themselves with. AND, the Windows phones aren’t selling, so they didn’t build that many to begin with since they don’t want to have tons in inventory they can’t sell.

        According to the latest data which was including recent iPhone 5 sales, the US saw a HUGE shift where Android phones dropped as fast as IPhone sales skyrocketed.

        You are such a idiot, you listen to misleading numbers.

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          Nope all iPhone 5′s and 4S’s are getting reductions, not only Sprint.

          Apple took of the limit a month early. The iPhones are piling up on shelves. They aren’t selling as good as they want them to be.

          Nexus 4. Completely sold out. Lumia 920 and 8X, near impossible to get hold off. SGS III and SGSN II are selling massively.

          Oh yes, lets forget about the rest of the world.

          Oh, you really want to look at the March quarter? That may spell disaster for Apple!

          Well, looks like iPhone 5′s aren’t selling. iPhones never get discounts, especially not even 3 months after they land on the market.

          Windows Phones aren’t selling? Then why are they sold out then? And selling far better than the iPhone 5 in countless of countries?

          Oh yes, a study/data that was right after the iPhone 5 landed. Now? Completely different.

          misleading numbers? Yeah that what it /must/ be.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Apple doesn’t have them discounted. the only reason why the others might be doing it is because they are just cleaning inventory because it costs them money at the end of the year in taxes and the majority of the people buy iPhones from Apple and they choose which plan they want, because people are getting sick and tired of going to cell phone stores because most of those reps are stupid and on commission and all they care about is selling what makes the sales rep the most money.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Of course Apple doesn’t discount. But look at all the stores around APple. They are discounting the 5.

            Of course they are cleaning inventory. The iPhone ISN’T SELLING! (well more of having too much of it in stock)

            Majority buy iPhones from Apple. Excuses. Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.

          • NutjobNumber1

            What do you mean excuse, Apple’s not discounting the iPhone 5 are they? NO. Then STFU.
            Oh, my iPad 4 comes with Siri, my iPhone 4 didn’t because I just wanted a basic smartphone that I felt would serve my needs until Apple came out with a 4G/LTE phone to see if I need it and how much SSD storage I really need. I don’t have a NEED for voice commands, that wasn’t a big deal for me to do without. Maybe on my next phone i will want it, but to me, it’s not a number 1 through 5 NEEDS.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Apple doesn’t ever discount. Well… only on black friday and when a new product rolls around.

            But again, last several years, THERE WERE NOT DISCOUNTS ON THE NEWEST APPLE PHONES AT THIS TIME!!!

          • NutjobNumber1

            The market wasn’t as big and competitive, but the ones that are discounting are resellers, not Apple or the carriers. The only time Apple discounts is on products that have been around for a while during Back to School or Black Friday. Other than that, they don’t typically discount, they know how to manage their inventory and they roll their products out over a period of time rather than just blasting out to everyone all at once.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Basically you just admitted that: Competition is tougher and iPhone is having a more difficult time selling.

          • NutjobNumber1

            It’s that and the fact that Hurricane Sandy took out a very large portion of the US, that is now just trying to get their lives together, so everyone is scrambling for sales to make up for the loss of sales in the East Coast because of Hurricane Sandy. That has a tremendous impact on EVERYONE. If they didn’t have that hurricane, then there would be a lot more sales for everyone.

            Everyone is just trying to get some media attention because Apple’s been getting quite a bit so they just trying to make their product look good.

            Apple’s not really that worried, they are selling more iPhone 5′s than previous year’s 4S. The entire Smartphone market is growing as more people get off traditional phones, more users get old enough to buy a phone and everyone wants more, faster, bigger, better, etc. It’s the smartphone market in general and everyone’s going after that market. But Apple has the highest loyalty rate out of ALL of the mfg. That’s a FACT.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Listen Mr. Butt Hurts. EVERY YEAR, Apple Stores open up a counter at the front of the store with iPods, iPads, and iPhones for the quick sales customers. They are those that are typically buying a present, they already know what they want and they walk in and have product in hand and paid for within 3 minutes. they don’t wait on line and they are in and out as fast as HUMANLY possible. Try walking into a store during Christmas and having product in hand within 5 minutes. Apple Stores are PACKED during Christmas time and have the fastest sales process in the industry. In fact, I can walk into an Apple Store and buy something without even talking to a sales rep. I can walk in with an iPhone, scan the bar code, press a couple of buttons and walk out with product in hand. It’s that freaking simple. Can’t do that at most traditional computer stores, or any store for that matter. Apple has the retail sales store process down to a freaking art form. That’s why people are trying to model their stores after theirs. They are the retail store KING. PERIOD. More sales and profits per sq foot than any other retail store chain. IF you are studying retail marketing in college, Apple is a text book example of as close to perfection in a retail store than ANYONE. PERIOD.

          • NutjobNumber1

            I was in a Best Buy a couple of weeks ago and a MacBookPro owner was trying to install Windows 8 that he had just bought, but it wouldn’t freaking work. He was working with one of those Microsoft In Store reps with the Microsoft shirt on, so he’s hired by Microsoft to work the Best Buy stores. Anyway, he sold the customer the wrong installation CD. Idiot. They were screwing around for about 30 minutes trying to figure that one out. Something that should be SIMPLE turned out not to be so simple. They had to take back the product that wouldn’t work and figure out what to sell them, but knowing MIcrosoft, they’d probably count it is TWO sales of Windows 8. One that was the wrong one that got returned, and the correct one that he eventually bought. But the Microsoft rep was helpful in getting Windows 8 on a MacBookPro. They just don’t know which VERSION installation disk to sell. A freaking joke. There should only be ONE installation disk. That’s how Apple would do it. SIMPLE. QUICK and EASY. Why make something difficult when you don’t have to? Microsoft tends to over complicate things to confuse people. Major problem Microsoft has ALWAYS had. It wastes a LOT of time doing things the Microsoft way.

          • NutjobNumber1

            If Apple doesn’t discount, then there isn’t any massive inventory to get rid of. EVERYONE tries to clean up inventory during the Christmas months, it’s what those that have it do. They are just being competitive because Sprint doesn’t sell as well as AT&T and Verizon, but i’ve not seen either of those discounting iPhone 5′s.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Last time this year? Last time 2 years ago? etc…?

            The newest iphone WASN’T discounted like it is now..

          • NutjobNumber1

            It’s just a couple of resellers that are having problems, not the carriers or Apple. Best Buy has been doing crappy for a while. Even Microsoft stores aren’t doing that well, and now Microsoft has to start selling the Surface through other stores since their sales SUCK. They actually lowered the number of units on order because they aren’t selling well.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.

            If the iPhone was doing so amazing THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO DISCOUNT IT!!!!

            Unlike Apple, Distribution was the Surface fault. Can only buy it from MICROSOFT. Apple? About any store out there.

            Matter of fact, Microsoft just increased their numbers for the Surface.

          • Jay Kay

            Mr. Lier, growup, dont talk like grade 2 kid.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            The only liars here are the Apple fangirls who can’t stand reality.

          • NutjobNumber1

            So what. That’s those particular stores. But Apple isn’t discounting them, they will only have a discount if they need to right before the product gets replaced, IF they want to.

          • NutjobNumber1

            SOME stores are discounting the iPhone 5 by $50. BIg deal, they were discounting the S III earlier by $100. 2 for 1. Because the S III ain’t selling well. But only SOME stores are discounting the iPhone 5, because MOST people buy direct from Apple at full price. They like going into an Apple Store because they don’t get pressured, they give excellent support, they can get people in/out fast because of their sales process, and because if you want the extra hand holding, they provide that. Plus, Apple Store reps aren’t paid on commission, so you don’t get slimy sales reps trying to sell you something you don’t need. Heck, I’ve gone into Apple Stores and they were trying to sell me some that was less expensive than what I originally was asking for. I was originally asking about i7 processors, but because i wasn’t using any software that warranted Hyperthreading, I wasn’t really going to see much speed difference in the apps I was going to be using, so I could use that money on something else. So, I find the Apple reps to be fairly honest. I may know more than some of them, because of my background, but I seem to search out for the more experienced reps that are up to speed on things i’m not and they are typically VERY honest and a pleasure to deal with. Excellent resource.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Hey Mr. Butt Hurts, did you not read that the Australian Police put out a similar warning about Google maps and giving dangerous directions, I think Apple fixed their problem already. So both parties had similar problem, but I think Apple fixed theirs first.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Funny, since Google maps was a minor flaw, unlike Apple’s.

          • NutjobNumber1

            The Austrailian Police didn’t think Google’s was a minor flaw, but Apple fixed theirs from what I read. Mr. Butt Hurts, you are just getting so pathetic. Face it, your little Google Maps has flaws, ask anyone in China, it’s really bad there, but Apple Maps is far more detailed in China.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Google has flaws. Nothing is perfect, but Google has far less flaws than Apple.

            Apple thinks that their products (magically) get better overnight!

          • NutjobNumber1

            Google made an announcement the 4.2 was going to fix a 2.5 year old bug. Oops!

            Hey Mr. The Butt Hurts. why don’t you grow up. it’s getting annoying having to deal with your misleading, BS. You twist everything around to suit your ignorant BS.

          • Jay Kay

            flaw is flaw, who fix that first is a winner, Mr. Lier

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            At least their flaw wasn’t getting people stuck in the middle of NOWHERE!

          • NutjobNumber1

            THey both had a flaw, but Apple fixed theirs.

  • NutjobNumber1

    I just talked to several Android phone users and they have too many problems and are planning on switching sometime next year. Several of them were so violent about how they hate their Android product, it’s funny to see someone that pissed off at a product that’s not an Apple. Oh, BTW, i cruised into the local Apple Store to see the new iMac. I found two PCs, one a laptop (Sony) and one a tower (didn’t catch the brand name on it) and both people were SWITCHING. I asked the Sales rep that I’ve gotten to know pretty well and he said “WIndows 8 is scaring the carp out of Windows users and they are switching to Macs instead.” He was chuckling as he said it. They get a fair amount of Windows switchers at this particular location and he said they always have machines in the back of the store that are getting the data migrated over. They are backlogged due to the demand. Oh, and the iMacs are flying off the shelves. They run out by around noon.

    • The__Truth__Hurts

      A year ago, I knew countless of people who were going to get rid of their Android phone and pick up an iPhone.

      A year later, the only one who picked up an iPhone to replace their Android phone was some person who wanted to fit in with her friends because they all had iPhones.

      The others? walked in the store to buy an iPhone and walked out with an Android.

      Why? because once they played around with the new Android devices, they were just simply floored by them.

      Oh yes, I see people left and right “complaining” about their Android phone and how they will be glad to switch to the iPhone. What Android phone do they have? They basically have the worst POS phone out their imaginable.

      Those are the exact same people who go around claiming windows is junk, and the only windows devices they every bought was a $250 blue-light special because no PC is worth more than $250.

      Windows 8 is scaring the junk of of Windows users?

      I love how everybody is claiming that. Yet Windows 8 is selling far faster than Windows 7.

      • NutjobNumber1

        1. Samsung was handing out $25 checks to Cell Phone Store sales reps and the iPhone 5 hadn’t been released. I know someone that got suckered into a SIII that way. What do they think of the SIII? They can’t stand it. It needs to be charged, even though it was in screen save mode and they hadn’t used it all day while they were at work. They have text messaging errors sending certain characters, and they don’t like the NOT EASY TO USE. Plus they get horrible cell reception when compared to an iPhone using the same carrier, calling from the same location to the same phone number.

        I have another friend that has an HTC and she’s had to have it replaced 3 times. She went postal about it, she’s ready to throw it in the trash when her 2 year contract is up in a couple of months.

        Windows 8 selling faster than Windows 7? Well, how are they doing that? Because they basically gave it away for almost free to people that bought computers right before the announcement date, but they are getting feedback from the Corporate Enterprise customers and they aren’t planning on switching to it any time in the near future. I think the numbers were in the 40+% of the Fortune 1000 customers don’t like it. That’s a BIG chunk of their install base that doesn’t like WIndows 8.

        In the US, iPhone sales have surpassed Android phone sales (combined all brands/models) over the last 12 weeks since the iPhone 5 announcement and they just got caught up with the initial demand and are now shipping to meet the Christmas demand and they just signed up T Moblle starting next year, and they STILL haven’t started shipping in China and other markets. Watch what happens to Android numbers at the end of the Dec quarter and the end of the March quarter to give Apple enough time to get their product in all of their existing markets and as they open up new ones.
        Sorry, but nice try.

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          Oh yes, because the Store sales reps keep you at gunpoint until you given in. Absolutely hilarious, since the battery life of the Galaxy S III is as good as the iPhone, if not better. Not easy to use? As Apple fangirls claims that Windows is so difficult to use and OS X is far easier to use, how come the majority of people aren’t using OS X? And when you stick OS X in front of a Windows users, they have absolutely no idea how it works, because it is confusing as heck?

          horrible cell reception? Yeah, at least the Samsung doesn’t drop calls when held.

          Funny how if my dell breaks once it is a POS, but if my Mac is constantly at the Apple store getting repaired, fixed, it is still an “amazing” “flawless” device.

          Funny how if an app crashes on my android phone once, the apple users go on about how horrible Android is, but when their iOS device freezes up, crashes left and right, has random restarts, suddenly that is perfectly fine.

          Microsoft Windows 8.

          If Windows 8 is utter trash, please explain to me why Windows 8 is selling far faster than Windows 7. Why is Windows 8 selling far better than Windows 7? Why is it that numerous CEO’s have used Windows 8 and Windows RT tablets are updating their business to Windows 8, because Windows 8 is far better than Windows 7 and numerous companies are replacing their iPad with Surfaces and similar tablets because they can far better integrate into the network, are far more productive and can actually replace the computers, unlike the iPads they bought to try to replace the computers and their computers ended up staying? Why is the Windows 8 app store is growing at a massive rate (25,000+ apps) that quickly blew past the Mac App store? Why is that windows 8 apps are getting downloaded at a far faster rate than from the Mac App store? Why is it that countless of app developers have passed the $25,000 mark and are now getting 80% from the apps? Why is it that countless of app developers have already made millions from the Windows 8 app store? Why is it that countless of OEMs are having to massively boost production of Windows 8 touch devices, because the demand for those are so massive? Why is it that gamers are downloading Windows 8 far faster than the typical public? And something to chew on: Windows 8 adoption rate of other countries are between 3 to 5 times that of Windows 8 adoption rate in the states. The rest of the world is updating to Windows 8 far faster than Americans.

          Who are the people who “hate” windows 8. The Apple fanbois and girls who refuse to touch anything windows. About everybody else? Once they touch Windows 8, they can’t stop touching it.

          The media is getting their panties into a bunch because they can’t get a touch screen on their little MBA because touch screens on “PC’s” are for “losers”.

          Yes, iPhone sales surpassed Android phone sales, right after the iPhone 5 went on sale. If the iPhone is selling far better than the Android phone, why are countless of stores slashing the prices of the iPhone 5 and 4S, and now, several have already slashed the price of the iPhone 5 and 4S by $50. If the iPhone is doing so dang well in America, how come are the prices getting slashed big time? While the Nexus 4 is sold out completely (earliest you can get one is 6 weeks from now, shipped), Lumia 920 is near impossible to get hold of as well as the HTC 8X. LG just sold a huge bunch of their phones and Samsung? Just records sales with their Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II. Selling by the truckloads.

          T-mobile signed up? Well, Apple gave into T-mobile. T-mobile isn’t giving Apple the big fat check that At&t, Verizon and Sprint had to give Apple. Apple saw that their iPhone was cooling and not getting onto another carrier was going to hurt their bottom line significantly. Matter of fact, countless of countries around the world, when the iPhone went on sale, the iPhone didn’t increase market share and such, and several, it lost market share and that is where the iPhone 5 was on sale.

          What what happens to Android numbers at the end of Dec and end of March. Massive increase. Same with Windows Phone and by March, Should see BB in the mix. Samsung? Samsung seems to be the only one that is keeping up with demand. Apple is to, but they are having a surplus of phones and countless of stores are slashing the prices to get them moving. HTC, LG and Nokia? Can’t even make enough of their flagship phones to keep them on the shelves.

          Sorry, but it is nowhere near as how you are claiming it to be.

          • NutjobNumber1

            It takes time for people to switch computer platforms, but Apple’s gaining in the desktop against Microsoft every quarter, bit by bit. Some people are just afraid to jump, because it’s a big change for people.

            What sales reps were doing is going after people during the 3 months after the SIII was announced and the iPhone 5 was still unannounced, so they were comparing the SIII against the 4S. I talked to a tMobile sales rep about the whole thing, they were getting pounded by corporate to push the SIII on customers and all of the carriers were doing it because Samsung just took advantage of a 3 month period, because once the iPhone 5 got announced, SIII sales dropped like a rock, per the T Mobile rep. See you just it out so much bullshit.

            I am sick and tired of trying to get you to not out out bullshit,

            Te whole point that you are missing is that when apple releases and iOS update, ALL or most 80+% can upgrade, where that’s not the case for android users. Why is that a big deal? Apple’s user base isn’t fragmented in terms of which OS they are running. It is much easier for the company to support their products, it’s much easier for the users, and it’s much easier for the developers. Otherwise, you have a fragmented mess like both Android and Windows has. Fragmention can kill a platform, since even amongst the user community they don’t have up to date OSs. basically, Google is telling their older Pre-4.x customers to upgrade or go f yourself. Fuck that. That’s just stupid.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Apple is “gaining” because their market share is so dang low.

            SGS III sales dropped like a rock? Funny, because that was the quarter where SGS III skryocket, and passed iPhone sales!

            But of course, lets make up excuses, right!

            Updates: Yes, your 2+ year old Apple device may get an update, but it’s only in name. You want X or Y feature? Gonna have to get a new iPhone, even if the older iPhone can run it perfectly.

            Fragmentation? If that is such an issue and people want the latest and greatest OS, how come the desktop market is completely different then? Never heard of the “fragmentation” problems with PC’s, and “fragmentation” is on a far larger scale than in the mobile landscape.

            Matter of fact, the “no name” devices are the ones that really aren’t getting updated. Oh, and if you are on verizon, you are screwed no matter what. But rest of android? Gets updated quite frequent, especially in the rest of the world, where they can see updates months before the same thing land in the states.

          • NutjobNumber1

            No it didn’t. All that happened was during the time period of last quarter, the S III surpassed 4S sales for that quarter. IPhone 5 was announced at the end of the quarter you idiot. Plus, all time sales of the 4S is well past 70 Million units and the SIII is only around 30 Milliion units. S III only surpassed 4S sales during the tale end of the 4S right before the 5 was announced, Again, totally misleading and you are just too stupid to actually READ. Quit bothering people, you obviously read what you want to and you have tons of Apple but hurt because you don’t have much money to spend on computer devices.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Well, shouldn’t the 4S sales be (Technically) more? It has been far longer on the market than the S III.

            Misleading?

            Excuses. Excuses. Excuses. If everybody was waiting for the iPhone 5, the Galaxy S III wouldn’t have had massive increase of sales right before the iPhone 5.

            But, of course! Everybody want’s iPhones! That is why the iPhone 5 is discounted at countless of stores!

            I have the money to spend. I have $2000+ desktop, $2000+ laptop, etc..

            I pay for the best. Regardless who makes it. But I don’t pay so I can flaunt around that I have the best because I have “such and such” product.

          • NutjobNumber1

            The 4S has sold about 70 Million when the SIII had sold only 30 Million, but the 4S is still being sold, they dropped the price because it’s last year’s model, just like the SII, which no one gives a crap about. The iPHone 5 will outsell the 4S after a year’s worth of sales. I wouldn’t doubt if the iPhone 5 sold as many as 45 Million units in the first 3 months, which is more than both for their respective first 3 months worth of sales. Not everyone knew about the iPhone 5, only those that keep up to date on technology news do.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Again, 4S has been on the market far longer than the S III.

            Again, S II is still selling well

            Well, lets hope! your next product /should/ sell better than your previous!

            The reason iPhone 5 sells are “better” is that Apple is rolling out availability far, far, far, far, far faster than previous years.?

            iPhone 5 killer front sales, but quickly dies.

            What is NOT mentioned is: In a lot of countries, it is near impossible to pick up a lot of these flagship android & windows phones. They are sold out. but iPhone 5? plenty in stock.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Not in the US, the SIII sales dropped off, and now they have to do 2 for 1 promotions.

            NO, the iPhone 5 sells better than the 4S, because it’s a big upgrade and most people that are buying them were waiting for them.

            Your comments are STUPID, UNFOUNDED, and just dumb. Grow up. You have no concept of how to write a truthful comment.

            GROW UP Mr. Butt Hurts. Face it, YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

            I’ve not heard that Android and Windows phones are sold out in other countries. Show me an article proving that statement.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            S III sales dropped off? And why is it selling more and more each quarter?

            Selling better than the 4S? Funny how the 4S is getting a cut as well! guess nobody wants iPhones anymore!

            Maybe pay attention to non-Apple cult websites?
            They are selling out left and right and selling far better than the iPhone.

            Lets see what happens in China, since the Lumia’s just landed there! (Which are about selling out in every place they are for sale)

          • NutjobNumber1

            Well, of course I won’t get everything. I don’t get what it didn’t already have to begin with. Big deal. Te only thing I didn’t get was Siri, but I am not used to speaking to my phone on a regular basis using voice commands. I play around with it every once in a while on my iPad 4 and I play around with google voice search and you know what? they both work and don’t work equally, google search works great when it works, but when it doesn’t, it doesn’t. Same thing with Siri. They are both technology that I find still in their development stage and I have to learn what they are good at and what they aren’t but, quite frankly,both suck 50% of the time. But I have both the screw around with.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Big deal? So some POS android phone (which isn’t a true android phone) not getting android is a HUGE deal, but your iPhone 4 that can run Siri without a hitch, but apple didn’t include it so they could give you one more reason to buy an iPhone 4S, isn’t a big deal?

          • NutjobNumber1

            Go look at the numbers since the iPhone5 hit. In the US, iPhone is about 48% and growing while the entire Android platform is dropping just as fast and it’s down to about 45% market share as to what’s been shipping. Go look it up. Quit relying on market share that is Pre-iPhone 5 marketshare, Apple is rolling out their products over time, whereas Samsung did it all at once. The SIII is the biggest selling Android phone and apple is already going to out do the SIII. Wait until Dec for the results of 3 months worth a sales for US and then at the end of March quarter so they can see how it’s doing in china and other markets. you Obviously don’t know how to compare and look at these market trends. T Mobile signed up because they want iPhone users and Apple has enough demand and can build enough to meet this increase in demand.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Again, that was one RIGHT AFTER the iPhone 5 landed. Lets look at it now? Oh wait, that won’t look good for Apple.

            Wait until Dec. Wait until March. Yeah, it will be an absolute disaster for Apple. And you can already know that because of the iPhone 5 getting massively discounted all over the U.S.!

            while, it’s near impossible to get your hand on numerous android and windows phones!

            T-mobile signed up for the iPhone because Apple bowed down to their request. Because T-mobile IS NOT GIVING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO APPLE FOR THE iPHONE THAT AT&T, SPRINT, VERIZON ARE DOING!!!!

            Apple demands billions for the iPhone. T-mobile ISN’T paying Apple.

            I wonder why?

            Dosen’t look good when your halo flagship phone is getting a $50 slash. A phone that NEVER gets a discount! (well, until the new one lands)

          • NutjobNumber1

            Hey Mr. Butt Hurts. How would you care to make a gentlemen’s bet. Here’s the bet to make it as fair as possible, but it’s actually slanted towards you since Apple hasn’t started shipping the iPhone to all of their markets.

            Here’s the bet.

            Let’s compare the first three months of sales of the SIII (the best selling Android phone) against the first three months of iPhone 5 sales. So, basically at the end of Dec, we’ll find out how many iPhone 5′s have sold compared to how many SIII’s sold in their first 3 months and I’ll bet you that the iPhone 5 outsells the S III. Care to make that bet?

          • Jay Kay

            Dont take me wrong dude but this trend will keep changing sometime iPhone goes up sometime Shamesung, reason with every new release people buy so when they will launch s4, things will change towards Shamesung, if they manage to make good phone, but what happen to those recent buyers who are still waiting for JB, lolzzz, poor users, iPhone is expensive but it stay in you hands for long, Shamesung is cheap but you have to buy it with every android update.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Sorry to burst your bubble, but the Galaxy S III has JB. Shamesung is cheap?

            Guess the Apple fanbois can’t admit that Samsung is making phones that just DESTROY the iPhone.

          • NutjobNumber1

            That’s not true. It’s been compared and the iPhone 5 has a better processor, better quality screen,etc. etc. the ONLY thing the S III has is a bigger screen and THAT’S IT. PERIOD. Everything else is cheaper and lower grade. Sorry, but the iPhone 5 gets better reviews.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Who tells you that? Cult of Apple?

            Funny how it went on how about how the Retina iPad display was so far superior than anything out there. Then the surface RT comes out with their (720p ish) display that just spanks the display on the Retina.

            The S III has a better CPU, better display, etc…

            Well…. Actually the iPhone 5 is CHEAPER to make than the Galaxy S III. Matter of fact the iPhone 5 is one of the CHEAPEST flagship phones to make!

            Better Reviews…? Well, they never say in those that it is better, but when you read the reviews, you can tell it is far better than the iPhone 5, they just don’t want to admit it.

          • NutjobNumber1

            so is that why they have to drop the price of the SIII to $100 w/2 year service contract?

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Funny, since it is between $170 and $270 (T-mobile has it a bit higher)

          • NutjobNumber1

            I’m not reading your comments anymore. They are like you . Worthless.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Can’t handle the truth.

          • NutjobNumber1

            I can handle the truth, but You haven’t provided any truth, you just provide a bunch misleading, non-factual, stupid pathetic butt hurt because you are just some dumb kid that doesn’t understand the industry and how to read articles and apply some deductive reasoning, logic because you too busy applying your pathetic excuses for promoting your own set of bullshit.

            Go provide some factual evidence with something tangible to back it up, otherwise, I am just not reading your BS anymore. YOu are a waste of time. PERIOD. Seriously, you really don’t understand the industry, how to analyze a company, a business model or anything else for that matter.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Truth = whatever makes apple looks good & makes Microsoft/Google looks bad.

            oh, I understand now!

            But I guess apple fangirls can’t understand that the typical person doesn’t want to be in a cult and rather have an Android and/or windows devices over an Apple device!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Felix-Davila/1059225273 Felix Davila

      well my friend i have used android 2 years now and i love it i don’t have eny problems at all no glitches nothing im happy i moved from ios and will never use an iphone never again in my life i don’t like using the same ios every year because i don’t see eny difference between the first ios and ios 6 its the same junk.

      • NutjobNumber1

        Well, Felix, several people that I know that own Android phones can’t stand them because they are much too time consuming just to play around with the GUI, they have battery drain problems, and it’s a pain in the ass to use. So, that’s why they don’t want them. Plus, they are big, bulky and kind of heavy and they just don’t dig em. iOS hasn’t changed in terms of how it LOOKS, it operates about the same because it’s EASY TO USE. What happens when you buy a car, are you the type of person that changes everything, puts in customized stereo that’s overkill, puts expensive rims on it, etc.? Some people just want to buy a product and drive it off the showroom and use it, they don’t want to waste extra time customizing it which doesn’t make it better, it just makes is LOOK and WORK differently. Most people don’t actually use all of the features of these phones anyway. It’s the 80/20 rule. 80% of your time is spent using 20% of the features. Anyone that operates outside is not a normal user.

      • NutjobNumber1

        Some of aren’t young kids that get all excited by some toy with shiny colors and light. We just using something and don’t consume our lives around a gadget with too many features, a dysfunctional OS roll out. Why do people root their phones and put another OS on it? Weren’t they happy with the one they had? I know there is only a small portion of Android users that are the super geek, have to download every hack, theme, animation, widget, etc. to be Mr. Expert, when they don’t have any business sense.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steffen-Jobbs/100001574843303 Steffen Jobbs

    OMG! 1.3 million activations per day! It has to be beating the cockroach and fruit fly population growth. Just how many adults in the civilized world are using Android smartphones? There’s only about 8 million humans in NYC and in just eight days, everyone, including babies will be using an Android smartphone. Wow! It’s getting downright scary to hear those activation numbers if it keeps up for a few more years. Android smartphones will likely cover every inch of the planet in ten years time if the numbers are increasing exponentially.

    Apple might as well shut down today after hearing Schmidt’s threatening words. Google will have the whole smartphone pie and Apple will just have a thin layer of sugar dusting on top.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chief.pufablunt Tony Warbucks

    LMFAO GOOGLE +……nuff said

    • NutjobNumber1

      THey have a lot of catching up to Facebook. what is it 1Billion to 100 Million? I personally see no need for both. I would just like Google to one of these days get off their lazy asses and fix YouTube, which SUCKS. The GUI looks like a child did it. Totally messed up GUI, plus they have too many underage kids posting comments and posting videos. They need to figure out how people can turn in underage posters.

      • The__Truth__Hurts

        Youtube Sucks? Looks good, maybe you should use a far superior browser (like Chrome or IE) to access it, not safari.

        (over 135 million active users in Google plus)

        • NutjobNumber1

          It’s the same crappy GUI no matter what browser or platform I’m using. It just sucks as a GUI.

          over 1 Billion active Facebook users, even though I don’t use either.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Looks completely fine. Guess some people can’t handle change!

          • NutjobNumber1

            Some people either don’t want to change because they are happy with what they have. Google + isn’t marketed that well when compared to Facebook. They should have called it something different, but I don’t know what they could call it that would get people’s/media attention. Google just THOUGHT, through their own arrogance, that they could get just as many users to sign up for Google+, but I guess not. Oh well. Personally, I don’t use either. I find both services to be nothing I need.

  • saudio

    The smug ‘bite me’ look on Schmidt’s face says it all. Anyone that arrogant will surely trip and fall over his own droppings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1537677936 Amardeep Singh

    clearly ;)

  • http://twitter.com/shanecbryson Shane Bryson

    Just where the hell are all these Android devices? I seriously have one friend with an Android and it’s so annoying because he can’t be included in any of our iMessage convos that are sometimes 10 people deep.

    • The__Truth__Hurts

      Funny, since a huge majority around me have Android.

  • The_Network

    I just left the Samsung S ll for an iPhone 5. I could hardly wait until my contract was over. Verizon was great, but the call quality was very bad. Facebook did not work on several occasions on the Samsung S ll. Since the switch to the iPhone I have not had one app crash. Android>> Stinks

    • The__Truth__Hurts

      absolutely hilarious, since my iPhone 5 toting friends are constantly battling crashing and random restarts.

      or are those features all of a sudden?

      • bdkennedy11

        That is also hilarious. Anyone I know that owns an iPhone 5 has never seen a crash.

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          Absolutely hilarious.

          Was sitting around just one day with couple of my iPhone friends.

          They were just surfing the web and saw it with my own eyes, their iPhone 5 rebooting randomly.

          They went on like it was normal, etc…

          But I guess, any faults with the iPhone is a feature to the iFans, right?

          • NutjobNumber1

            I’ve never heard of an iPhone 5 randomly rebooting. Maybe it was a bug that got fixed. But this is first I’ve heard of it, and since it’s coming from Mr. Butt Hurts, it’s probably fictitious BS like the majority of your pathetic posts.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Oh. I should mention that is was a “feature to die for”, which All of my Apple friends lined up for days to get.

          • Jay Kay

            Lier lier set on fire.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            The only liars around here are the apple fanbois who are in deep denial.

        • NutjobNumber1

          Mr. Butt Hurts is an idiot, he makes up stories to serve his pathetic life. Every time he turns around, he misleads people. He’s probably some teenager with nothing better to do than to just lie because he probably doesn’t have any money to buy a real phone or computer, so he just spouts off BS.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Makes up stories?

            Guess some people can’t handle the truth.

      • Jay Kay

        Using iPhone since first model, I can bet i never had any app crash problem, and in iOS there are no issues at all, when i bought iPhone 4 back in 2010 i setup that as new phone (reason i was super excited and wanted to change the way i keep things) since then till my iPhone 5, I’m restoring my new iPhone with old phone backup, can you do that with your android???????

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          Funny how Apple fangirls claim that they “never” have any problems.

          I see iOS freeze up, apps crash, random reboots left and right.

          I have seen countless of times where OS X freezes up, apps become unresponsive crashes, etc…

          Funny how if I’m on a non-Apple product and that happens, the Apple users go on about how I should have bought apple and would NEVER experience those problems.

          But when that happens on their devices? They claim that it is no big deal, etc… (suddenly, it is perfectly acceptable for iOS/OS X to have problems left of right)

          Who needs to do a backup, when all of my stuff is synced to Google?

          Did a reset of my phone the other day. All I did was hit the reset button (no backup was done), let it do it’s stuff and signed into my google account and BAM! everything was on there. (well everything was starting to sync and download information/etc…)

      • Jay Kay

        and you know you are lying.

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          What? Don’t want to admit that iOS/OS X is buggy as heck?

          • NutjobNumber1

            No they aren’t. When ANY OS gets released, there are ALWAYS going to be bugs. They can’t avoid it. It’s impossible to test every scenario, but typically Apple only has a couple of bug releases and they do it quickly after they find out about the bugs. Each release of OS X has had less bugs, which is why they can announce a newer version sooner. iOS only has maybe one or two bug fixes for it. The only problem is that voice recognition is a lot tougher than they originally thought, Even Google’s voice has problems, its the nature of that type of product. Maps just has data issues from the sources they get data from, but they fix as soon as they can, but they have to rely on others for the data.

            I just tried Google Maps, I like Apple Maps better, sorry, but it’s not THAT great. It’s a little better and a little worse, but it’s still beta code, and Google was lying their ASSES off making assumptions that Apple wouldn’t allow it on the Apple App Store, those idiots didn’t bother to submit the app until the other day. Freaking retards.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.

            Apple is quick? Funny how it takes freaking forever for them to fix massive holes and such, and when it goes “mainstream” (media picks up on it), suddenly its getting fixed.

            Yes Google’s voice thing does have problems, but far less than Siri.

            Google lying….?

            Funny how Apple suddenly starts to “allow” apps go through when people start to question where the heck these apps that were promised and the companies that are making those apps are saying, the hope that what they sent didn’t got denied.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Apple never told Google they weren’t going to allow Google Maps. Why are you lying?

            All voice recognition s/w has problems, it’s inherent in voice recognition. It’s lot better since voice recognition first came out, but it’s STILL in development stage as far as I’m concerned.

            Also, Google Maps is still beta.

            The problems in Apple’s Maps is with Data they get from their various sources. It’s something they have to rely on OTHERS to get since they get a lot of the info from TomTom and others. That’s where the problem is. But if there is an area they can fix themselves, once they know about it, they handle it.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Apple is KNOWN to “freeze” apps. Basically not deny them or approve them, and they sit their for weeks. And then when people start to question, where the heck this app is, or it is leaked out that this apps has been submitted, etc… Suddenly the app is “approved” and in the store.

            A lot of Google stuff (if not all) is in beta, but far better than Apples products that are NOT in beta!

  • The_Network

    To the one that replied to me. Remember this is a opinion forum. If you don’t like my opinion, remember it’s my experience with the Android that i’m referring to.

  • The__Truth__Hurts

    What Apple fangirls can’t grasp is that your average person doesn’t want to be in a “cult”.

    Apple is a cult that the media has basically said: “It’s okay to be in!”, since they are part of the cult as well!

    In Apple users (more so the ones that are the die-hard users), Apple affects the exact same portion of the brain as religion in “religious nut cases” (like religious cults for example?)

    The reason why the “average joe” is buying apple is because they constantly get blasted by their Apple friends that Apple is the best, everything is junk (even when their apple toting friends have not used other products) and the media constantly going on about how amazing Apple is and how everything is trash.

    The average person wants Google or Microsoft Products OVER Apple. But they get “blasted” by the media and Apple toting people that Apple = God and everything else is junk.

    Someone picks up a Galaxy S III. They most likely will say that they got it because it was the best phone for them. Someone picks up an iPhone 5. They most likely will say that they got it because it is the best phone out there.

    Huge difference.

    And people are beginning to Realize that Microsoft and Google are making products Apple can’t match, even if the media is “blasting” those as junky devices.

    Why else is the iPhone 5 getting $50 price cuts all over the place, while Nexus 4, HTC 8X, Lumia 920 which are “meh” phone, and the iPhone 5 so far superior to those, as the media complain, are (simply) impossible to get hold of? Nexus 4 has a 6 to 9 week wait, if not sold out. Lumia 920 and HTC 8X? You can sort of get them, if you know where to look. Galaxy S III, Note II? Not sold out, but massive sales.

    The thing is… People are beginning to wake up. People are beginning to wake up.

    • Malli Gator

      For 23 years from ’84 to around ’07 Apple users were being laughed at by Wintel users for using weak, expensive, proprietary toy computers. It got so bad the company nearly went out of business multiple times. Jobs came back and ushered in the OSX/iPod/iMac era which allowed the company to get back on its feet and start the iPhone/iPad era in ’07 which changed the way we compute. Apple’s success has nothing to do with the media and Apple toting people. It has everything to do with 15 years of hard work and innovation.
      I love Apple hater’s logic…
      1984 to 1987: Don’t use a Mac. No one uses a Mac.
      2007 to Present: Don’t use a Mac. Everyone uses a Mac.
      By the way, I carry a Nexus 4. I *love* it. I find it intriguing, though, that you used that phone as an example. No removable battery…like the iPhone. No SD card…like the iPhone. No LTE…which the iPhone 5 has. 16GB maximum storage…smaller than the iPhone. And yet, while the iPhone is laughed at and called obsolete and too little, too late, the Nexus 4 is considered a top-of-the-line Android phone. A little hypocritical if you ask me.

      • The__Truth__Hurts

        Up to 2007? Apple did focus on high quality products.

        What happened after that, especially in the recent years? Media, fanbois and names sell their products.

        About any category Apple made products for, nowadays and for a while in some categories, there are countless of devices that just make Apple look like junk.

        Apple’s massive growth in the last several years? From their Logo. Not from hard work AT ALL. Sitting back and letting the logo do all the work.

        Nexus 4? The thing is: THAT ISN’T YOUR ONLY CHOICE, unlike the Apple world. You want an iPhone? only one choice. You want Android? You chose what you feel is important.

        Funny how Apple users tell you the reason why they bought X apple device is BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST PRODUCT OUT THERE, while the non-Apple users picking up there non-Apple devices say BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST PRODUCT FOR ME.

        Guess, you have to blend in, if you are a sheep.

        • Malli Gator

          If you only graze in only one pasture, be it Apple’s or Android’s, you’re a sheep. I carry both. I know the strengths and weaknesses of each. You don’t appear to have any real experience with iPhones and just seem to hate Apple for some reason. Perhaps you should use an iPhone so you can stop being a sheep and decide for yourself.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Have all three major platforms. Even have webOS and Blackberry.

            Apple, Microsoft, Google, webOS (HP), RIM (Blackberry)

            I heavily use all three. There is a reason that I don’t use Apple that often anymore. Because Microsoft and Google have stepped up the game massively. Apple? Apple has became the lazy blond that uses her looks to get stuff down. The others? working day and night making better products.

          • NutjobNumber1

            What. You like wasting money on crap hardware. You seem like the type of person that buys a lot of stuff and doesn’t much with it. Web OS? WOW, wasn’t that just a waste of money. How about blackberry?

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Oh, I use them heavily, on a daily basis.

            Those who bash on webOS and Blackberry are those who are extremely insecure of their own OSes on their devices.

            webOS? Blackberry? Those aren’t perfect OSes (nothing is), but there are many times, what those OSes can do, the other other OSes can’t do as well as those things.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Do you wake up in the morning a COMPLETE IDIOT, or do you take drugs or drink something to produce that mentality? You are BEYOND pathetic.

            WebOS and Blackberry are DEAD. PERIOD.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Blackberry is alive and well, and there are over 75 MILLION BB users waiting to upgrade!

            WebOS? It’s a live. the hardware is, but the software ISN’T.

          • NutjobNumber1

            NOPE, some people choose a platform and just stick with what works. Having been in the computer industry and been around a lot of various people (corporate users, government users, consumers, etc.) what I noticed is that once people stick with a OS platform, they tend to stick with it and only switch because of a compelling reason. But Apple users tend to stick with Apple. The Windows crowd may stick with WIndows, but they change brands like underwear because they are never happy with one brand, or in the case of IBM and Compaq, they were kind of forced because those two companies sold out. SInce HP is in DEEP shit and Dell has a bad reputation, PC users are stuck, so some go to Lenovo until THEY screw up, which they eventually will, or they have to go to with some consumer level company like ASUS, Acer, Samsung, or the DYI level, as of the last couple of years, people seem to run to Apple because they are liking OS X and they can STILL run WIndows and it’s totally supported by Microsoft, so they only buy one computer and run both OSs and they’re happy.

            WIth smartphones and tablets. Face it, Apple is considered to consistently come out with best of breed products, they are gaining acceptance in Corporate, Government, Military, and Educaitonal markets and they flat out have the better apps, more apps, FAR more third party hardware products, and Apple does a first class job at supporting their products and you don’t get gouged to develop software. Their XCode is free and it only costs $99 to sign up as a developer. I just looked at Visual Studio, the prices vary between $471 and $13,300 for Visual Studio development software which is a total rip off to be a Microsoft developer. Android is just trying to be like the Linux version for phones and tablets, but they don’t have the backing of corporate America, Educational systems, and Apple getting more and more attention with the Government sector. With their upcoming Fingerprint ID, that will get them even more business.

            The only thing Apple should do other than what they already are is come out with two different sized phones and let their users decide which size screen they want.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Windows users change brands like underwear because they are never happy with one brand.
            We are “not loyal” to one brand because we pick up what’s best. “being loyal” is what causes brands to be lazy. “Oh, they always bought mac and they will always buy mac. We don’t need to innovate!”

            I may have amazing experience with Dell, But I might see what HP or Lenovo is doing next time. Matter of fact, I might have a Dell Desktop, Lenovo laptop and a HP tablet. I pick up what is the best, not what is the flashiest.

            Of course you can run Windows on a Mac. But you won’t get the durability, reliability, performance, value, security, services (5 year warranties, accidental coverage, 4 hour response: in home/business repairs, computer recovery, data recovery, etc.. Apple doesn’t even come remotely close to offering these stuff), ease of use, integration, etc.

            Apple makes the best smartphones and tablets? IN YOUR DREAMS. The reason why they are “gaining” acceptance is because some higher up person wants to bring their toy/use their toy at work. And a huge percentage of IT folk HATE those devices because 1) security, 2) reliability, 3) Durability, 4) Reparability, 5) Upgradability, the list goes on. They are far more expensive, and no where near as reliable, secure, durable as other products. Also, they don’t integrate in well, unless you use everything apple, and It’s just a mess. They reason is why they are “taking off” there is because “joe” wants to have an iPhone or “sue” wants to be able to use her iPad at work. Even if it’s just going to be a massive pain. Again, they want to use there “toys” that are NOT OPTIMIZED for the work place.

            Apple has better apps? sorry, fart apps aren’t a good thing. more apps? Guess you failed to mention how Google now has as many apps as Apple, (if not already passed them). Since Android/Windows use “generic” ports and adapters, you DON’T NEED SPECIALIZED adapters/third party hardware like Apple!

            Don’t get gouged to develop software. 1) to develop apple software you MUST use Apple hardware. (which is where apple makes their massive profits) 2) You are comparing Apples and oranges.

            The “issue” with what you said with Android…. Linux, or different types/versions of linux is HEAVILY used in corporate, education, government systems of America. Matter of fact, Linux has been used over OSX/iOS because it can be far more secure, stable, etc.. than Apples own software. Also to let you know, Linux and Android both are government approved (as well as windows & blackberry). iOS/OS X? Not even government approved.

          • NutjobNumber1

            An amazing experience with Dell. Really? how is that possible? I’ve never heard of anyone having an amazing experience. They were KNOWINGLY selling faulty products for 10 years that had a failure rate of 90%, they even got sued by the Feds over it. I used to sell PCs and Macs to corporate/government sector. Apple was always consistent, they typically made quality products with unique design and had a low failure rate. IBM and Compaq used to have low failure rates back in the beginning, but IBM quality went down, and so did Compaq on what they sold to the mass merchandisers. HP typically made high quality pcs, but the stuff they sold through the mass merchandisers. From my experience, all of the PC mfg have gone downhill in terms of quality, design.

            Yes, for the iOS platform, absolutely, they have all of the same Google apps, but I would say those apps are any good. Apple has their own apps which are pretty good apps and they don’t develop for Android.

            HP hasn’t always had those kind of service plans, that’s new, because they are desperate for business. Apple has had he highest customer service and satisfaction ratings for many years, high customer satisfaction equals brand loyalty,

            The problem with the open source free OS model, is you typically don’t get decent tech support, because you aren’t paying for it. apple’s OS is based on an open source kernel, but they put things on top that were unique to Apple and they offer tech support for their product on their own hardware because they want to make sure they have a total solution, not some kludge.. The second you market a computer where you didn’t develop the OS, that’s a kludge. Kludges are generally hard to support, create more problems and headaches.

            Seriously it sounds like you haven’t been in the computer industry to actually see how messed up the PC industry is.

            All you come up with are excuses to hate Apple and they are a consistent, successful company making great products. OH, btw, Apple just shipped my iMac a little early, instead of waiting after 24th, I’ll be getting on the 19th. 5 days early!!!!

            You are just jealous and like complicated products to act superior,

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            An amazing experience with Dell. Really? how is that possible? I’ve never heard of anyone having an amazing experience.

            You know, maybe instead of treating them like trash, it would be better?

            Oh, and if you buy an equivalent priced Dell (to an mac)? The customer service of the dell just blows Apple’s out of the water.

            Apple makes products with low failure rate? Tell that to the MBP owners around me. at least 75%+ are having failures left and right.

            Of course Apple dosen’t develop for Android/Windows. That would mean their profit margin would be less since they wouldn’t be able to sell overpriced toys!

          • NutjobNumber1

            YOU ARE DUMB. Dell’s service has ALWAYS sucked. I’ve seen them get kicked out of accounts for crappy service, shipping product that wasn’t what was ordered. Dell got their asses sued for knowingly shipping faulty product for 10 years. You are an IDIOT.

            They develop iTunes app for Windows and Quicktime for WIndows, but I think that’s about it. That’s to let Windows users have access to the iTunes music store. Apple doesn’t want to do any other development for WIndows, because they aren’t a Windows developer, that’s not their gig. Microsoft HAS to develop for Apple and now Android because they need to make their numbers and Windows 8 isn’t going to do it for them because they dropped the price too drastically and PC sales have been sliding for the last few years. So they have to write apps, which is what Microsoft is supposed to be an App developer. But, the only thing they are writing for the others are their SkyDrive and Office. Not much else from them.

            Why should Apple develop anything for Android? Those people want everything for FREEEEEEEEEE! Plus they either have no money or they don’t want to SPEND money on anything. So why bother with the biggest market of NO MONEY? Failed business model.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Again. Maybe don’t call them idiots when you are on the phone….?

            I loved this article that this guy claimed that Dell customer services was vastly inferiors to Apples. And then went on about how he REFUSED to do what the Dell customers reps were telling him and how he was telling them he didn’t want that POS dell any more. And then went on about how he went BAWLING to the Apple store and did /everything/ they told him to do.

            I have contacted Dell/HP/Lenovo/Apple/etc… I have had great and horrible experiences. And it COMPLETELY depends on your attitude.

            Matter of fact, I had an specialized Apple “rep” hang up on me once, because I was having a problem with a mac and he was claiming that it “couldn’t be” and it was an “outside force” and I pointed him to the Apple website where COUNTLESS of people were suffering from the exact same problem.

            Oh yes, develop utter trash for windows.

            Those want everything Free? Can tell you that they use iTunes A LOT LESS now!

        • NutjobNumber1

          I CHOOSE to only buy Apple because i only have to deal with one company, and no matter what device I use, i don’t have to get used to a different interface to confuse me. That’s the beauty of Apple. Plus better tech support and shit just works better with each other.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Basically, It isn’t about getting the best. It isn’t about getting the best for you.

            It is whatever is the quickest and easiest.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Apple products have CONSISTENTLY gotten better with each revision. I got the iPad, then it got stolen a couple of years later, I got the iPad 3, huge improvement, then Apple came out of knowwhere and announced the iPad 4, so I was lucky enough to return it, get my money back and get the iPad 4. I couldn’t be happier. NO problems with it. It’s a great tablet. I just ordered my new iMac and am getting it a little earlier than originally told. Apple generally has gotten GREAT product reviews, and have gotten best in class for many years, even by the PC mags, which they don’t typically like Macs, but over the past years, they seem to like OS X even more than Windows. They hate Windows 8 compared to OS X. In fact, I have NOT seen any PC mag rate Windows 8 better than OS X. Look at Gismodo, they just released a tablet comparison, and rated the iPad 4 as the best large tablet. Wah, wah, wah, wah. go take your BS elsewhere.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            “great reviews”, since the media is dominated by die-hard Apple users.

            Isn’t it interesting how they tend to all come out around the same time, RIGHT BEFORE the apple device comes out with their review?

            But with a lot of these other devices, it takes days, if not months, and in a lot of causes they never test these products?

            Of course, when the non-iMac all-in-one they test is $800 and the iMac they are testing is $2500, of course the iMac will be “better”!

            Interesting how they are more than happy to “bash” on how the Surface doesn’t have any apps (which is BS since it has well over 25,000 now) and how the iPad has plenty. But when the review say…. The Acer W700 tablet (Intel powered), suddenly absolute no mention about apps. I wonder why? Because it can run desktop apps?

            Isn’t it funny how they “bash” on the android/windows phone/RT ecosystems of lack of apps… But when they are talking about OS X or Windows? There is absolutely no mention of ecosystem?

            I wonder why? Of course! Windows just SLAUGHTERS OS X there!

            Windows 8? Americans. Typical Americans If it isn’t flashy, of course it is going to get rated down. Windows 8 is getting bashed HEAVILY into the ground by the media. Except it is selling far better than Windows 7 (at this time) and the adoption rate is quite huge (especially huge overseas). And the demand for Windows 8 hardware is so massive, all the OEMs are having to up production massively to meet demand.

          • NutjobNumber1

            They are getting great reviews from PC Mags you IDIOT.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Ran by Apple nerds.

          • NutjobNumber1

            What’s wrong with the quickest and easiest? I don’t like having to spend a lot of time picking out what system I want. I go on line when they offer the form factor I want, it takes literally about 10 to 20 minutes to run through a variety of configurations and then I pick the one i want, order it, and blammo, I get my computer, and it’s always a great experience. Once I get the box i’m up and running within 5 minutes and then I start to transfer my data. If i have problems, I can call Apple’s 800 number, get questions answered immediately and I’m off and running. Apple’s got great tech support. If I want to have the local Apple store transfer the data, they do it for free and give me a personal tutorial if i need it. FOR FREE. Apple’s great about that. They are just super busy, and I don’t need them to help me since i’m more experienced and generally don’t need that kind of hand holding, but new users do. I think it’s funny to hang around an Apple Store and see PC users bringing in their computer to get it transferred over. They seem pretty eager to do it. I guess they don’t have such a great Windows experience to want to switch.

          • NutjobNumber1

            I like being efficient, not stupid.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            efficient? Yep, completely efficient, where you have to install a whole bunch of apps to communicate with the majority of the world (GOogle and Microsoft stuff)

            completely efficient to have to carry a bag of $300+ adapters because there is (literally) no universal ports on your Apple devices.

    • NutjobNumber1

      Each platform has their own culture in certain ways, some are extremists and some just like using one platform over another. I’m not one of those that will stand in line for hours, days or weeks just buy the latest product. If I can order it on-line, it do it that way.

      • The__Truth__Hurts

        Oh yes, each platform has a “cult”. But the cult of Apple, is far, far, far, greater than that of Microsoft’s or Google’s.

        Also, the media makes up the cult of apple, so it has a lot more exposure (positive exposure that is) than the others.

        • NutjobNumber1

          They are. More brand loyal to the hardware/software rather than switching hardware mfg like underwear. You don’t have as much brand loyalty, just trying to get the cheapest hunk of junk you can get and not buy any content or apps because you think everything is FREEEEEEEEEEE!

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            And those who pirate, end up buying the most!

  • The_Network

    Sigh… There is nothing wrong at all for buying a Corvette or a BMW to get in the car club or cult as some may call it. There is nothing wrong with preference over one color of a device or the brand loyalty of Corvette and BMW owners. There are Brand loyalist in every type of product. What your saying is crazy. If you did your research on how many people have all ready called the National Corvette Museum regarding ordering the new C7 Corvette, with out even seeing the car would floor you.

  • Actionable_Mango

    Eric may brag, but the real winner here is Samsung, not Google.

    While Google is losing hundreds of millions of dollars making Android, Samsung is making billions of dollars making Android devices.

    • The__Truth__Hurts

      Show me where Google is loosing money on android.

      • Actionable_Mango

        It’s too bad you don’t know how to use Google’s search engine, but I’m willing to help you out:

        http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/10/09/why-is-samsung-the-only-android-success-story/

        http://news.yahoo.com/why-google-losing-billions-android-001600471.html

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/05/04/google-loses-money-on-android-says-judge/

        http://techpinions.com/a-message-to-eric-schmidt-and-android-put-up-proof-of-profits-or-shut-up/11189

        http://branch.com/b/how-long-can-google-keep-losing-money-on-android

        http://archive.brianshall.com/content/android-so-good-it-doesnt-even-have-make-google-any-money-ever

        http://www.asymco.com/2012/05/13/android-economics-an-introduction/

        After further research I apologize for my error in stating the Google only lost hundreds of millions on Android. It appears that the real figure might be in the tens of billions they lost on Android.

        This is all from analysts of course. We don’t have an exact figure because Eric refuses to report finances with Android as its own slot. If you are making tons on money on something, you brag about the amount. If you are losing tons money on something, you obscure that and brag about something else (market share, activations, etc.).

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          Oh yes, lets believe what a bunch of Apple fanbois wrote.

          Google ad revenue grew over 400%, I wonder from what? Shall we say Android, perhaps?

          Of course, Google won’t make money of Android directly, because that is open source. But Google play store, cloud storage, Gmail/maps/etc…? The OEMs NEED to pay google for that.

          But of course, lets call the Motorola a $12 billion loss, right?

          And lets forget about all the other stuff, since Google stuff is all junk, right?

          • Actionable_Mango

            I did not say Google stuff is junk. I’m not anti-Google at all. I love Google and I use their services religiously.

            I stated one point and one point only: that Google loses money on Android, which is demonstrated by many analysts and how Google chooses to describe its success.

            Google ad revenue comes from all sources, not just Android. An 400% increase in ad revenue is proof that Google is doing great in the ad market. Actually, not just great, really great! However, it is not proof that Android is profitable to Google.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Google loses money with Android?

            Yeah believe a bunch of analysts who can’t tell their but from their head.

            What had a MASSIVE growth….? Say…. Android?

            But of course, that wouldn’t help to back all the analysts who are claiming that Android is losing a bunch of money.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Actually, they made an announcement a while that they actually get more revenues from Apple iOS users than android users. I thought that was funny. If Google actually derives more revenue from iOS users, then they might want to think about either charging money for their OS or just bow out and promote Apple iOS products, so they can make more money.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            That DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANDROID IS LOSING MONEY!!!!!!

            Do you know what that means? Apple users are far more likely to click on ads than Android users!

            (Matter of fact, Google allows for ad blockers and such on their platform!)

          • NutjobNumber1

            They have to allow for ad blockers. I think that’s law now, if it isn’t it’s because people are sick of Ads.

            Let me see if I can explain it to you in EASY TO UNDERSTAND language.

            1. Google spends money developing Android OS.
            2. Google spends money on marketing/advertising Android OS.
            3. Apple iOS users spend more money on things and also does far more internet usage which Google derives revenue from MORE than the typical Android user.

            So, the bottom line. If Google wanted to increase their revenue, decrease their marketing/advertising/development costs, they should drop development/marketing/advertising for Android and just focus on development of iOS apps and Google would actually be more profitable as a result. That’s what would happen if they dropped Android altogether.

            The other way for Google to increase revenue and profits is to actually charge OEMs $10 to $15 for each license of Android OS, but since they already set precedence by giving away Android OS, they kind of backed themselves in a corner.

            Either way, they have to see how much revenue/profit they make per iOS user vs. Android user. They make more per iOS user than Android user. Instead of jerking Apple around and not improving Google Maps like Apple wanted, they caused Apple to make a decision to dump Google Maps off the intitial installation. Google also was cheap and didn’t want to develop a YouTube app for Apple. So Apple developed it instead, but Apple can’t do certain things with YouTube, because they aren’t Google. The whole arrangement sucks and Google either has to get their $HIT together or move over.
            I downloaded Google Maps on my iPhone to compare. Frankly, i think it sucks. It doesn’t show a satellite view, the turn by turn is uglier, and I just like Apple Maps better. As time goes on Apple will improve Maps with the data problems they have, but right now as we speak, I like Apple Maps and I don’t have any problems with it. It works great and my area doesn’t have any 3D photo problems.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            They have to allow for ad blockers. If that is the case, why doesn’t Apple have ad blockers….?

            Apple iOS users spend more money on things and also does far more internet usage which Google derives revenue from MORE than the typical Android user.

            Yes, because Apple users throw money down the drain. Windows/Android users don’t do that. Far more internet usage? Funny thing is: How is that figured out? Like buy ad clicks. Apple users buy heck a lot more stuff! Of course they are going to click on ads more than Android/Windows users! And with the android browser, which can “trick” the web to think it is a desktop browser, of course it isn’t going to show up in the “mobile” browsing!

            Matter of fact, Google makes $$$ from the Android OEMs. Play Store, Gmail, etc…? The OEMs have to pay for it.

            Google being “cheap”? Google/Microsoft are more than happy to make apps for iOS/OS X. The thing is with iOS, Apple keeps denying the stuff. And unless they make it “far inferior” it won’t get passed.
            Don’t see Apple at all making stuff for the other platforms? I wonder why? Of course! They can’t keep their massive profit margin on their hardware then!

            Google Maps? Apple maps are so horrible that Apple servers can’t even keep up with the demand of people downloading the Google maps! Yes, as time goes, Apple will improve their Maps, but Nokia/Microsoft and Google aren’t standing still. Unless Apple starts pumping billions into their maps and billions of hours of time, they are going to still be massively behind.

          • NutjobNumber1

            OEMs don’t pay for Android OS, it’s FREEEEEEEE! So google doesn’t make money there. Their Google Play only does $2 Billion a year, Apple’s iTunes store does about $8 Billion a year. So they don’t make much from Google Play.

            Apple is not in business to make a lot of stuff for other platforms, they don’t NEED to. They only support Windows getting on iTunes and using Quicktime.

            BIG DEAL GOOGLE MAPS. I tried it, it isn’t that great. I think the GUI is kind of stupid. I’ll keep using Apple Maps, it works with the area I live.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Yes, the OS is FREE, but to get the google “services”, like play store, gmail and such? the OEMs have to pay Google for those.

            The only reasons they have to support iTunes on Windows, because if they had no iTunes for Windows? Their iToys would have NEVER became peopular.

            Funny how now with Google Maps out on iOS, it just slaughters Apple maps not only in look, but capability.

          • NutjobNumber1

            WHat it means is that Apple users use their systems more over the internet. If you look at the market research companies that monitor internet usage by platform. iOS users are at around 90% and Andriod around 10%. I guess Android users are too busy having their units charged, or they just are too busy playing games, playing with customization, or tweeting each other rather than doing anything on the internet. OR they have built up a little collection of Android products, but don’t actually use them.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Or the method is FLAWED in gathering the data?

            Two things, depending on who is doing the survey

            1) Ads clicks. All that “proves” is not how much people truly spend online, but what platform clicks on ads far more.

            2) Mobile “browser”. Here is the thing: Android has a desktop browser functionality. MEANING IT TRICKS THE WEB TO THINK IT IS A DESKTOP!!!

            But lets ignore those two, right? Since that will destroy your claim.

      • NutjobNumber1

        Hey Mr. Butt Hurts, I just looked up AT&T and the iPhone 5 through AT&T is normal regular price. Verizon is also at normal prices for the iPhone 5. So the only one discounting is Sprint, which makes sense since their 4G/LTE isn’t as good as AT&T or Verizon. Oh, they are discounting various Android tablets and phones through both, but the iPhones NOPE. regular price.

        • The__Truth__Hurts

          $150 gets you an iPhone 5 from best buy and radio shack. Numerous other places have it discounted.

          Here is the thing: The iPhone was NEVER discounted like this, even at stores.

          I wonder why? Not selling?

          • NutjobNumber1

            Best Buy is doing the promotion because Best Buy is hurting in sales. Same thing with Radio Shack. Both can’t seem to attract people in the store. so this is a way to get people to walk in. When WIndows 8 was announced, I was at the local Apple Store and Best Buy, just to see what the response was. The Apple Store was packed as usual and Best Buy was a freaking morgue. No one goes into Best Buy.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Excuses. Excuses. Excuses.

            And it isn’t just Best Buy and Radio Shack, other stores as well.

          • NutjobNumber1

            Seriously, do you have a mental problem? Resellers typically will discount Apple products a small amount, that’s how they compete against Apple Stores. That’s nothing new. The same stores typically discount PC products as well. Some people prefer to Apple Stores, some like going to other stores. Discounting product has always happened for ALL brands since the first days of the computer industry. Apple Stores will give discounts to students, teachers, employees of government, employees of companies that have discount programs. But some products have to be readily available.

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            Apple products DO NOT get discount barely 3 months after they land on the market, especially right before the holidays.

            If everybody wants the iPhone 5, then it must be flying off shelves left and right!

            But apparently not, since they have to discount it!

          • NutjobNumber1

            DId you get hatched yesterday and just started learning out to type? Back in the ’80′s, computers from IBM, Compaq, Apple, etc. had some decent margin. It was no uncommon to sell any name brand computer for as much as 25 to 35 discount, but that margin is no longer that big. I even sold some IBM product at 40% discount because they had some special discount program. This was in 1988. Some products were heavily discounted, some not,

          • The__Truth__Hurts

            And how does that have to relate with the iPhone 5 getting a $50 price cut…?

  • digitaldumdum

    Can’t understand why this Android sh#t is posted at Cult of Mac? I read Cult of Mac to read about… Macs.

    • NutjobNumber1

      Because Cult of Mac started Cult of Android so they could get more viewers and sponsors to make more money. Simple deduction.

  • melci

    Android is indeed the new Windows in terms of malware, but not in terms of any other metric that matters.

    Unit sales marketshare is a means to an end, not an end in itself. The reason companies strive for unit sales marketshare is in order to make profits and achieve other objectives. However, it is Apple and the iOS ecosystem that is bringing home all the bacon:

    - 90% of mobile e-commerce revenue comes from iOS devices (Rich Relevance)
    - 88% of tablet e-commerce transactions come from iPads (IBM)
    - 67% of mobile ad revenue generated by iOS (Opera)
    - 84% of mobile gaming revenue captured by iOS (NewZoo)
    - 58% of mobile ad impressions are iOS (Mobclix)
    - Average web usage share over multiple web analytics including W3Counter, WikiMedia, StatCounter GlobalStats, StatOwl, NetMarketshare, WebMasterPro, AT Internet, Clicky WebAnalytics etc is: iOS share = 6.16% Android = 2.81% (Wikipedia)
    - 65.3% mobile web browser share iOS vs 20% Android (NetMarketshare)
    - 69% of mobile ad viewing share is iOS vs 29% for Android (Chitika)
    - 94.6% of Tablet web browser share is iPad (Chitika)
    - 25% of mobile web share is iPhone vs 16% Android (NetMarketshare)
    - iPhone developer revenue 4x greater than Android dev revenue (Distimo)
    - IOS developer revenue 6x Android dev revenue (Distimo)
    - 43,000 iOS developers vs 10,000 Android developers (AppStoreHQ)
    - 97.3% of business tablet activations are iPad (Good Technologies)
    - 73.9% of business smartphone activations are iPhone (Good Technologies)

    Android is simply the new Symbian – all unit sales marketshare but nothing else.

    • NutjobNumber1

      Finally some REAL numbers to look at. Thanks for posting and giving us a dose of REALITY.

  • http://twitter.com/bruintoo Benjamin

    Who the fuck uses Google+? I created an account and have never used it.

  • Jay Kay

    I agree but in terms of numbers, not in term of Quality, Easy to use and Updates, but he is still there after getting kick on his butts.

  • Jay Kay

    Schmidt is retard

  • NutjobNumber1

    Google thinks that 100 Million users is a viable competitor to Facebook which has 1 Billion users? That’s a 10 to 1 difference. Sorry Google, you are going to need a lot more users than that. So why aren’t all of the Andrôid users automatically have a Google+ accent? I would think that Google wod automatically do that as part of getting an Andrôid device. If it is, then Google is selling a lot of products to a small number of people.

  • NutjobNumber1

    Here’s an interesting number to think about. There are currently 150 iCloud users, but only 100 Million Google+ account users? Because iCloud users are people that have a Mac, an iPhone, an iPad and/or an iPod Touch. Some people, such as myself own a Mac, an iPhone and an iPad, because we just want to know and use one platform.

    Google+ is open to anyone that wants to use Google+ and they don’t have to own an Android device. But Google+ only has 100 Million users.

    Hmmmmmmmmm……

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