Friday Night Fights: Is Samsung Really Copying Apple? [Feature]

Friday Night Fights: Is Samsung Really Copying Apple? [Feature]

Laaaaaaaaaaadies and Gentlemen, welcome to Friday Night Fights, a new series of weekly deathmatches between two no-mercy brawlers who will fight to the death — or at least agree to disagree — about which is better: Apple or Google, iOS or Android?

This week’s topic is one personal to both iOS and Android fans alike: is Samsung really copying Apple’s designs for its Galaxy series of Android smartphones and tablets? Samsung and Apple are brawling it out on pretty much every continent on Earth trying to get to the bottom of this issue, so it’s only fitting that we try to settle this one in the ring too.

In one corner, we have the 900 pound gorilla, Cult of Mac; in the opposite corner, wearing the green trunks, we have the plucky upstart, Cult of Android!

Place your bets, gentlemen! This is going be a bloody one.

Vincent Messina, Cult of Android

We’re all well aware of the past year’s ominous patent battle between Apple and Samsung. Apple claims Samsung has infringed upon numerous patents and that they are simply protecting their intellectual property (something I find ironic, considering Samsung manufacturers 26% of Apple’s iPhone components). While patent laws are an entirely other debate, I’d like to take a moment to give my opinion on whether or not Samsung has been “copying” Apple.

Okay, so is Samsung “copying” Apple? I’d have to say yes, and no. I believe Apple’s claims of Samsung “copying” their design because they sell rectangular phones with rounded corners to be absurd. The fact that they appear to believe they invented the black rectangle is also beyond comprehension. To me the whole thing wreaks of Apple’s inability to further its own innovation and is a feeble attempt to squash anyone who does. As for Samsung, while inspiration, and developing products based off of a successful model, are common practice and to be expected, they could have tried a little harder to differentiate themselves from Apple (which could have been accomplished with a few subtle and easy changes).

As a tech lover, it breaks my heart to see such attacks on progress, choice and innovation. Apparently Apple believes no other company, person, or entity should be allowed to further use, produce, or improve upon their patented black rectangle with rounded edges. Sometimes a design comes along that just works and it becomes the inspiration for further innovation and development. Take the telephone for instance: 99% of all fixed phones are similarly designed. A long portrait designed piece of hardware with an earpiece on the top and microphone on the bottom. Each phone has similar square/rectangular buttons with the numbers 0-9 and a digital screen for viewing called numbers and information. They are designed this way because it works, it’s comfortable and functional. Should we not allow companies to manufacture these phones in a similar fashion because we may not be able to differentiate them from one another? Should every manufacturer be required to design an entirely new body and framework for the basic phone? Maybe Uniden should only be able to produce triangle phones, while AT&T must produce oval shaped phones with the earpiece on the bottom and microphone on top?

This is the sort of asinine thinking that is going on right now in the world of Apple and its patent lawsuits. I think the focus should not be on whether or not these products look similar or are “copied,” but on the important legal stance of whether or not Samsung is maliciously trying to deceive consumers into thinking they are buying Apple products. I believe this is not the case, and that is why I believe this whole thing to be nothing more than Apple trying to compensate for its obvious decline of market power.

Every creation was spawned from a previous model and there’s no instance in the world of a pure invention or innovation that doesn’t get its inspiration from somewhere. Man got his inspiration to seek out flight from watching in awe as birds soared high above. The marvel of the Sistine Chapel was inspired by biblical lore, and even our precious world wide web itself was conceived by using technologies that had already existed. Should we lose out on these magnificent accomplishments simply because companies arrogantly feel that they “own” and have exclusive rights to ideas and shapes? This insidious path toward the destruction of innovation will never garner my support and is Kryptonite to the super powers of inspiration.

I can’t even begin to fathom a world where companies are forced to produce geometrically assigned products in only the colors they’ve managed to patent. I seem to recall the mobile market being flooded with manufacturers using the flip phone design, yet I can’t recall any lawsuits regarding ownership of such design (there may very well have been, I just can’t remember)? Must be an Apple thing.

So, are some of Samsung’s designs similar to Apple’s — yes (extremely similar). Does Samsung at any point in time try to deceive consumers into thinking they are selling an Apple product — no. Are there clear indications that the device is not an Apple device — yes. Can you bring a Samsung device into an Apple store for support — no. Does the receipt for my Samsung device say Apple iPhone, iTouch, iPad, or iAnything — no. Have I ever in my entire life encountered someone who thought their Samsung Android device was an Apple iPhone — no. Samsung’s products may look similar, but they are NOT Apple products and they do not attempt to portray themselves as such.

Perhaps Samsung can get out of this mess by claiming the front of their device is actually the back, thus the design is entirely different. =\

Just remember, all inventions were made using tools already invented. Take away those tools and everyone loses. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Apple should be proud of their accomplishments and relish in the fact that they have inspired entire companies and have helped form our current mobile ecosystem. Apple should quit with the antics and continue to focus on innovating and creating products people love. That’s all I’m saying, because these lawsuits aren’t going to magically produce an iPhone 5, or iPad 3 — you know, the things consumers really want from Apple.

In the end, the consumer is the one who ultimately decides what they want to purchase. Apple needs to stop thinking they can choose for them (or limit their choices) and allow the market to thrive. We all realize Apple’s incessant need for control, but it’s misguided and will ultimately lead to their demise. Apple is quickly becoming known as the company that sues everyone, and is slowly losing their once-held public perception as innovators. Samsung will continue to thrive, and if Apple wishes to do so as well, they need to get back to doing what they do best, marketing and development.

I will not pretend to know whose design was first but I do know it takes more than a couple of months to put together a working test unit, and Samsung clearly had one around the same time Apple did.

Friday Night Fights: Is Samsung Really Copying Apple? [Feature]

John Brownlee, Cult of Mac

To the casual observer, Apple and Samsung’s round-the-world patent and IP violation lawsuits must seem an awful lot like two spoiled Valley Girls taking their “Oh my gawd, Becky, stop copying my style!” lawsuit on an international tour. There’s a tendency to want to shake your head, to think the whole thing is just so pointless: who cares who first thought of wearing leg warmers over leggings, or plaid skirts with hooped bangles, when all teenage girls have always looked so much alike anyway, right?

But let’s try another analogy. It’s 1983, and Michael Jackson has just pulled on his iconic candy apple red leather jacket in Thriller. It’s a completely signature look, unseen by any performer before, right down to Jackson’s wet-look hairstyle, rolled-up sleeves and ankle-cut jeans. Now let’s say in 1984, Paul McCartney not only starts wearing the same jacket during all of his performances and videos, but when Michael Jackson complains, McCartney sues him, claiming he stole the Moonwalk from him.

Which is the better analogy? The latter, easily. Samsung is attempting to steal Apple’s signature, totally unique style, and having been caught red-handed, is now trying to muddy the waters by saying Apple violated patents. See the difference?

One thing everyone can generally agree upon is that most modern smartphones and tablets look roughly alike. They all have capacitive touchscreens. They generally eschew physical buttons in favor of software controls. They all run apps. They all have extensive multimedia capabilities. They all have internet connectivity. And so on. They are all, broadly speaking, minimalistic touchscreen rectangles that run apps.

At the end of the day, the issue here isn’t that the iPhone was the first smartphone to be a minimalistic touchscreen rectangle that runs apps. It absolutely was, and saying otherwise is ridiculous. But that’s not really the point, because while that is true, what Apple really did with the iPhone is put its finger on the precise pulse point of what people really wanted: a thinner, less complicated multimedia smartphone that acted as a true pocket gateway to the Internet. It’s important that Apple was first, but let’s be brutally honest here — not only can Apple not patent that idea, but a company like Samsung can’t be expected to sell smartphones that haven’t learned key lessons from Apple’s success. To do so would be letting down their customers.

So the problem here isn’t that Samsung’s devices run apps, or that they have touchscreens, or that they have a bare minimum of physical buttons, and so on. Whether Apple has patents for these things or not, Samsung can’t be expected to make smartphones in 2012 that don’t do these things. The issue is that, time and time again, Samsung has copied Apple’s style.

Not convinced? Here’s a short list of blatant swipes:

• Samsung’s homescreen icons look nearly identical to Apple’s. Every modern smartphone might need a Phone.app, but not every Phone.app icon must be a white telephone jauntily tilted at the exact same angle with a green background.

• Samsung is both certifying and advertising cases for their Galaxy Tab series of tablets that look exactly like the iPad 2 Smart Cover, right down to the color choices.

• Samsung is advertising the Galaxy Player using a product shot that is identical to that Apple used to advertise the original iPod touch.

• Samsung’s own Galaxy showcases prominently feature Apple icons on the walls.

• Both the inside and outside of the retail packaging to the Samsung Galaxy Tab are identical to the iPad’s.

• Samsung’s latest budget Galaxy smartphone, the Galaxy Ace, looks exactly like the iPhone 3GS.

• Samsung is hiring the same extremely identifiable actresses that Apple has previously featured in its own advertisements.

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Samsung’s devices look like Apple’s. Their advertising looks like Apple’s. Their packaging looks like Apple’s. Their accessories look like Apple’s. Their software looks like Apple’s. Heck, even their USB chargers and cable connectors look like Apple’s!

Still not convinced? Even Samsung’s attorneys working on the Galaxy Tab vs. iPad lawsuit can’t tell the iPad 2 and the Galaxy Tab apart from a distance!

Maybe a couple of the above things are accidental, sure. But while all modern smartphones may have to be broadly iPhone-like (and all tablets iPad-like) just to succeed on the market, they do not all need to be identically advertised, branded, or accessorized, nor have software and hardware design elements that are the doppelgängers of Apple’s. And using these techniques, Samsung has built a smartphone business that is second only to Apple’s in number of devices sold.

That may be great for Samsung in the short-term, but long-term, it’s bad for everyone. It’s bad for Apple, who has to watch one of its biggest manufacturing partners steal, then degrade their unique, original style by using it on inferior devices. It’s bad for Samsung, who is trading in the long-term profits of coming up with their own cogent, equally appealing smartphone design philosophy in favor of the short-term gains of being an also-ran and iPhone clone. And it’s bad for you and me because it stagnates competition. One of the biggest device makers on Earth is just stealing all their ideas from someone else. That means that Samsung is less likely to come up with unique, revolutionary new designs that will, in turn, prod other device makers (including Apple) to new heights.

There have been plenty of great smartphones since the iPhone that haven’t tried to pretend to be iPhones or violated Apple’s IP, most recently Nokia’s first Windows Phone, the Lumia 800, a device that explores its own ideas and has a truly wiorld-class construction, interface and operating system. Samsung has a choice. Unfortunately for everyone, the choice they’ve made is the most shameless one.

Okay, that’s the bell. What do you think? Who had the stronger argument on whether or not Samsung copied Apple, and do you think anyone missed any good points? The match may be over, but we’re taking this fight to the streets, so let us know your thoughts on the subject in the comments! Nothing to say? Check back next week for our next bout!

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  • Anonymous

    TLDR: I’m just going to guess the answer is Yes.

  • http://twitter.com/iJulianoR Juliano Rossi

    Use the F700 as argument simply doesn’t make any sense… When the product was announced it was CLEARLY in development yet. No body saw it working (while iPhone was working beautifully on january 9, 2007). Even on March, at CeBit, F700 was only showed with a Lock screen that nobody could unlock yet. Yes, March.

    Say that “it takes time to develop” isn’t an argument, when it comes to Samsung. Look at the recent history. We all saw the original (and thick) Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then, Apple introduced the iPad 2, some Samsung Executive said “the product was inadequate” (yes, it was) and BOOM, just 11 DAYS (!!!!) before the iPad 2 hit the market, Samsung showed the “all new Galaxy Tab 10.1″. Which, clearly, is a copy of iPad’s 2 design. LOOK, I said, 11 days.
    Of course: the “new Galaxy Tab 10.1″ wasn’t working when it was announced. Just a tablet, no screen turned on, nothing working. Why? Yes, we all know.

    Don’t doubt the capacity of Samsung… they have REALLY great Engineers. They’re giants, they have money, they can produce a prototype in a matter of hours.

    There’s no doubt that there’s only 2 big engineers company when it comes to smartphones/tablets: Apple and Samsung.
    Samsung has a GREAT design, great battery, engineering, etc… but, they’re copying Apple. Just admit it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dasiths Dasith Sean Wijesiriwardena

      You seriously think they can produce a product in 11 days? Have you worked in the industry? You have any evidence to backup your claim?

      It takes at least 3-4 months to even get to beta.

      Do you think Audi is copying BMW too? Because they all have 4 wheels? Doors? Steering Sheel? Ad’s look simmilar?

  • http://www.facebook.com/f.leon.live Francisco J Leon

    Samsung, you disappoint me. Whats next??… The Apple logo??

  • http://twitter.com/gnomehole The Gnome

    Hilarious to see an Android lovers take on this issue…  I always have to laugh when they call Apple fans out but then are so hypocritical.   (difference being Android fans aren’t smart enough to know or admit they are)

    I don’t think the whole software patent battles are helping anyone.  Blocking devices from being sold.. meh.

    What I wish is that people would open their eyes and see a copy cat when there is one and simply vote with their wallets.

    But they won’t.   What they will do is pay for things that are almost Apple-like, hate on Apple, while not even realizing what they have done.  Its funny.    Samsung is a shameful company… lawsuits aside anyone who doesn’t agree with that is a complete moron.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dasiths Dasith Sean Wijesiriwardena

      Usually idiots are the people who stereotype people and make assumptions about someone’s intelligence based on a product choice. But then again going by your previous posts that ship sailed a long time ago.

      When you hate something with so much passion I can only imagine it hurts you to see Apple products being surpassed by Google. Sucks to be you.

      Oh what Am I doing preaching to a cult of apple’s fan boys. Won’t come here again.

  • http://twitter.com/iJulianoR Juliano Rossi

    Use the F700 as argument simply doesn’t make any sense… When the product was announced it was CLEARLY in development yet. No body saw it working (while iPhone was working beautifully on january 9, 2007). Even on March, at CeBit, F700 was only showed with a Lock screen that nobody could unlock yet. Yes, March.

    Say that “it takes time to develop” isn’t an argument, when it comes to Samsung. Look at the recent history. We all saw the original (and thick) Galaxy Tab 10.1. Then, Apple introduced the iPad 2, some Samsung Executive said “the product was inadequate” (yes, it was) and BOOM, just 11 DAYS (!!!!) before the iPad 2 hit the market, Samsung showed the “all new Galaxy Tab 10.1″. Which, clearly, is a copy of iPad’s 2 design. LOOK, I said, 11 days.
    Of course: the “new Galaxy Tab 10.1″ wasn’t working when it was announced. Just a tablet, no screen turned on, nothing working. Why? Yes, we all know.

    Don’t doubt the capacity of Samsung… they have REALLY great Engineers. They’re giants, they have money, they can produce a prototype in a matter of hours.

    There’s no doubt that there’s only 2 big engineers company when it comes to smartphones/tablets: Apple and Samsung.
    Samsung has a GREAT design, great battery, engineering, etc… but, they’re copying Apple. Just admit it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/johncaville Gerry Doire

    Samsung was once a mickey mouse copying other companies technology, Firms like Sony and Panasonic comes to mind, they made so much money off of it, they eventually eclipsed the companies they once ripped ideas off from.

    Now as we move a head a few decades, they are doing the same to Apple.

  • Connor Mulcahey

    I find John Brownlee’s argument better because of all the support he adds in the list of specific instances of Sumsung’s copying, click on the links and you can se he isn’ exaggerating. 

  • tz

    I can’t wait for their 4S rip off!!!

    • http://twitter.com/tazh89 tazh89

      dont think anyone else is dumb enough to make a phone made of glass.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, Samsung steals from Apple. No, I will not read any of Brownlee’s crap.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Len-Williams/100000105785737 Len Williams

    Vincent Messina’s argument that Apple is trying to patent the round-edged rectangle is absurdly ridiculous, and shows the lack of observation and comparison of Apple’s and Samsung’s products. This kind of thing has happened with Apple for over 20 years. Apple paid several thousand dollars for the privilege of touring the Xerox PARC location where they got bunches of ideas for the original graphic user interface for the Mac. Note that I said PAID, not stole. It was a totally above board deal that Xerox approved.

    Then Steve and crew came out with the groundbreaking Mac GUI that was revolutionary and intuitive. Apple developed the first fully formed, workable and usable GUI that was easy to use and made sense. At the time, Microsoft had a command line interface only called DOS. We all know that Microsoft copied the Mac GUI wholesale and came out with a product called Windows. Microsoft paid nothing for the ideas it ripped off. Apple did the R&D and made it obvious how the GUI should work, and Microsoft stole the whole shebang.

    On laptops, Apple revolutionized the design by pushing the keyboard up to the screen and placing the trackball and then the trackpad in front. No other manufacturer had ever done that, but now ALL laptops are like that.

    Apple came out with the iPhone, the first all-screen, no keypad design that was distinctly different from anything before. Now ALL smartphones look like the iPhone. Same with the iPad. Apple develops and other manufacturers copy. It’s really quite tiresome. You’d think there was no creative thought out there besides the guys at Apple.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dasiths Dasith Sean Wijesiriwardena

      First all screen, no keypad design? Really?

      Might need to do your research before a rant.

  • Anonymous

    They just hired the same little girl in the Apple commercials to act in their Apple-esque themed lifestyle commercials.  They aren’t hiding the fact they are copying Apple.  In fact, Samsung is acting in a fashion where they are stating “We have money, we have a successful product line, we have great lawyers and yes we are copying you and you can’t do anything effective about it”.  And you know what?  Even as hardcore of an Apple fan as I am, I like their attitude.  Because it is the Samsungs in this industry that will keep Apple sharp.  Apple will make better products, with a larger variety of options, at a more competitive price specifically because Samsung exists.  The last thing we need is Apple turning into a 1990s Microsoft and crushing everyone in the business.  Keep it up Samsung!

  • Tiago Costa

    Samsung is stealing designs! I´m not the only one that have eard people say “oh look an iphone, OH way it´s says samsung on it”
    They all can make great designs and great products, so far the only problem for me for not buyng noting instead of apple produts its the lack of acessories, the CRAP operation system (android, symbian and the other bad ones, not window) and of course the fluidity that you can operate your device (OS fault).
    Continuing samsung must follow their own designs and their one ideas cuz the apple “move” will not last long!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Fichthorn/100000151767358 Adam Fichthorn

    Watch Samsung come out with a new logo. A pineapple.

    • Yacko

       There was a Pineapple brand illegal Apple II knockoff back in the day. Sued out of existence.

  • Anonymous

    The answer is NOT a simple one.  Basically EVERYTHING out there has to be thrown in.  For example Samsung may have copied X feature from Apple.  But Apple copied X feature from someone else, so in reality BOTH are copying.

    Another point to be made is:  Samsung (literally) makes the Apple products themselves.  If you tear apart Apple products, you will see SAMSUNG all over in them.  So is Samsung really copying Apple when x device is almost a Samsung made device?

    A lot has to deal with DESIGN. Galaxy S looks too much like an iPhone, etc….  But if you look, Samsung has had some of the design/look BEFORE the Apple product came out.

    Popularity.  Apple and Popularity is one.  Meaning Apple literally get credits for it, even if they don’t do it.

    Media:  They play a huge part.  There are times that the media say that x (samsung) device is a clone of an Apple product.  Only thing is, the product does NOT remotely look like any Apple product.  There are some (minor) things that x (samsung) company did that may be similar (like same color, etc..) that suddenly to their eyes is a blant rip-off.

    Galaxy Tab/iPad Look.  Design wise, Samsung had a product that had the EXACT same look, like back in 2005.  Are you going to (suddenly) tell Samsung that they CANNOT use that same look because Apple decided to use that look on their iPad?  How did you not know that Apple RIPPED that look of Samsung?

    iPhone/SGS:  Design wise, there were several phones around the same time (some might have been earlier?) that have the same look.  So (suddenly) you tell them that they cannot use that look because Apple made it popular?

    Personally?  Apple has simply made that Look, design, what ever it is: Popular.  Apple made that thing POPULAR.  Meaning that the average Joe will automatically think that Apple invented that thing.  Did Samsung copy?  Well the question is: how much did they truly copied?  And how much stuff did APPLE copied from others?  Because if Samsung copied x Apple thing that Apple copied, that should be “tossed” out.  In reality, I think we are going to find very few things that Samsung did copy from Apple.

    As I say, Apple tweaks (for the better or worse).  We automatically think that Apple is the own who pioneered the smartphone.  In reality, Microsoft, Palm, Blackberry, Nokia, Motorola should be given credit as well. (As well as others)  Without them, we probably would not be where we are at.  What Apple did was rode their wave and put out their own smartphone.  Steve Jobs himself said:  ”Good artists copy, Great artists steal.” If he said it himself, hasn’t Apple STOLE a freaking bunch as well then?  But wait, we aren’t talking about stealing, we’re talking about copying.  But the point being:  You can’t go around pointing fingers claiming that they are copying/stealing of you, when you said yourself:  ”Good artists copy, Great artists steal.”  You basically said it is perfectly fine to steal and then are complaining when you see someone stealing. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DCYRY46Y4BXAJOI5VH6U65KZAY Joseph

    “Another point to be made is:  Samsung (literally) makes the Apple products themselves.  If you tear apart Apple products, you will see SAMSUNG all over in them.  So is Samsung really copying Apple when x device is almost a Samsung made device?”

    What? They manufacture apple’s Processor design. The products are designed/engineered by apple & manufactured at Foxcon. You have no idea what you are talking about. Apple’s recieved a patent for the iPad in 2004. Samsung was doing nothing that resembled either product before the iPhone/iPad. Google’s interface/hardware on their phones looked more like a blackberry. A quick Google search will show you haven’t got a clue as to what you are talking about. As far as the interface goes nothing out there was like the iPhone.

    • http://twitter.com/tazh89 tazh89

      samsungs digital frame that came out in 2005 looks a lot like a tablet,noway samsung copied then because the ipad and iphone did not exist…android was developed to be on all shapes and sizes so no surprise that they had a bb type protatype,when android did release its 1st phone the g1 it was a touchscreen with a slide out keyboard and the only thing that was same was the fact that both the iphone and the g1 had was icons but everything else from there on was different,g1 had app drawer,widgets,slide down notification,multitasking,folders etc so if it was a direct copy of apples os then why did it have all those extra features?.funny thing is most of the things that were on android from the beginning are now on apples ios.also you dont see rim suing others for making phones with keyboard do you….the iphone was not the 1st phone with a touch interface,one google search will bring you to the lg touch phone that was released on 2006.

  • http://twitter.com/tazh89 tazh89

    is the lg tv a copy of a samsung or a toshiba tv although pretty much they are all thin and rectangular…
    are no else allowed to hire an actor just cause apple used them. the argument from the apple fan here is apple did it 1st then no one else but apple should do it although the funny thing is apple rarely are 1st in anything but they just put in a pretty package and simplyfy(take feature out) it..look at some of samsung photo frames which samsung released like in 2005 and tell me that does not look like a tablet or an ipad.maybe its possible that samsung is looking at some of its old product design. tablet is a rectangle with a screen so is a digital photo frame so maybe samung copied there photo frames…yes samsung copy but so apple,everyone copies everyone,just look at ios5 and tell me whats original….just like how all tv look the same,smartphone slabs and tabs will look the same.most desktop and laptops look the same..if samsung was confusing customers by making them think there devices are apple products then i would get the suing but when have ever read about someone buying a samsung product thinking it was a apple product…even non tech people can tell what brand they are buying..techie people assume the normal everyday customers dont know anything a brands lol i bet they may not know much about specs etc but i bet they know more about brands than us…if apple comes out with a apple tv can they make it thin and rectangular or would that be copying as thats done already.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DCYRY46Y4BXAJOI5VH6U65KZAY Joseph

      I bet if they copied that distinctive Samsung stand on their TVs Samsung’s lawyers would be all over them.

  • Anonymous

    Let’s review the arguments. Vincent says in defense of Samsung: “…the whole thing wreaks of Apple’s inability to further its own innovation.” In other words, once somebody copies you, you should give up and make a different design. Huh?

    “Apple believes no other company, person, or entity should be allowed to further use, produce, or improve upon their patented black rectangle with rounded edges.” Stop being silly; Samsung couldn’t be sued if all they copied was a black rounded rectangle. Those are just two elements in a long list.  Samsung has chosen to go WAY beyond that. Hiring the same little girl for their ad? They’re mocking YOU, Vincent, and every Samsung consumer. They think you’re an idiot.

    “[T]he important legal stance [is] whether or not Samsung is maliciously trying to deceive consumers into thinking they are buying Apple products. I believe this is not the case….” Good grief, are you blind? They are copying EVERYTHING. It reminds me of the classic photo of John McCain (who hated Bush) wrapping his arms around Bush and sticking his nose in his armpit.  He wanted anything he could possibly suck out of that association and so does Samsung. You’re defending that?

    “[T]here’s no instance in the world of a pure invention or innovation that doesn’t get its inspiration from somewhere.” OK, Vincent, you’re willing to argue that innovation is a figment of the imagination in order to short-circuit the issue. Patents shouldn’t exist and Apple is the only company in the world who should be stripped of their ability to enforce their patents. How about letting Apple compete on the playing field that exists in reality instead of your imaginary world where Samsung isn’t blatantly copying Apple?

    “Must be an Apple thing.” Sorry, Vincent, you aren’t close to being able to make that claim.

    “[T]hey are not Apple products and they do not attempt to portray themselves as such.” Vincent, you’re not really clear on the concept. Samsung doesn’t actually have to claim to be selling an Apple product to be in violation of Apple’s design patents.

    “Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.” So copying is just flattery and Apple should come up with other designs when they are copied? Again, you’re not really clear on the concept of who has rights .

    “We all realize Apple’s incessant need for control, but it’s misguided and will ultimately lead to their demise. ” We’re talking about enforcing design patents here, not Apple’s efforts to protect their consumers. What are you talking about?

    “I will not pretend to know whose design was first…” Vincent, you do recognize design patents are based on identifying who was first, don’t you? That’s the point. Apple was first and Samsung has copied not just a few simple design elements,  but everything they possibly could. You can’t escape that fact.

  • Anthony M Perez

    A lot of phones look like others – you don’t see them suing each other like Apple does.

  • Anonymous

    Okay. I’m trying to understand Samsung’s position. So a company spends hundreds of thousands of $$$ on R&D to come up with an original design…So, then it’s okay(???) for another company to just cop that design and produce near identical products ? Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but not when big $$$ are involved !

  • ryu wink

    Let’s not forget the smartphones before the iPhone… Let’s not forget the tablets before the iPad… 
    Not just how they looked, but how they worked… Who does’t see the difference is just technologically inapt. Who does’t acknowledge the difference is just ignorant or retarded.

    Let’s not forget the macbook air, and how everybody bashed it all the time, except for those “mactards”, and now every other pc manufacturer is copying the form factor almost 100%, just because it was a success. Let’s thank God they can’t put OS X on them.

    Samsung is one of those who are profiting from apple’s success, adopting their design and functionality, and following a great example is not a bad thing, but even the chargers, cables and packaging ?! that’s just stupid and they should pay for that.

    And is not just samsung, that’s the problem. Even google, M$ and many others are doing that. That’s not cool. 

    Why don’t we blame samsung just like every copycat chinese product that shamefully replicate everything. Think about it… we avoid the subject just because is samsung?

    Don’t get me wrong, i love my samsung products, like my TV, dvd recorder, monitor etc. and i will continue to buy them, even tho they broke unlike anything else, but i will never buy one of their phones, tablets or slim laptops just because i know these are stollen products and apple’s offerings are just better.

    We can’t expect apple to bring us revolutionary products every year, because they can’t do that. That’s why they must protect their products and allow them to last a few years. So don’t bash apple for the lawsuits… that’s just not fair. If samsung would be in apple’s position they would do the same thing.

    Nokia was the only company that stayed true to who they are. They lost the battle, but i still have respect for them. 

    Apple is the rain and the rest are just the mushrooms.

    • gcua

      You are a racist are you you think that apple is better than samsung. Well you are wrong cuz apple saw that they are lossing so they find crazy ideas and not reasonable excuse so that samsung will just crash you guys are so bad you even compared it to china. RACIST!

  • Jonathan Nguyen

    So when apple releases its Apple T.V will everybody say that apple copied samsung?

    No because everybody loves apple. duh. This debate has been decided by the number of supporters not the reasons. its always like that for most debates

  • http://www.facebook.com/Yogi1964 Andrew John

    Just go back in history when Samsung came to our attention. They made copies of Sony TVs with identical screens and circuit boards. Then it was CD players, walkmen, TVs and computer screens. Sony, Panasonic, Braun, Sharp, nobody was immune. 20 years ago patents on product design wasn’t even a thought. Copyrights on brand names and such were, but not designs of TVs, and Asia certainly weren’t protecting design copyright. Along comes Samsung, with one goal. Copy the best and make lots of cash. It’s an intrenched business strategy that hasn’t changed in over 20 years. Samsung make vital components for many technological industries today, so they get their hands on product designs well before any device is made. They get a first hand look at everything that will hit the market years before. Its not hard to mimic what others do, but what samsung haven’t done is surpassed anyone. If they were such an innovative company, they would have overtaken Apple, Sony or HTC with game changing devices that look nothing like anything else. Until they have a single innovative design thought, everything they do will look like copycats, as they do. Show me something totally new, a never done before, game changing device from samsung and I’ll STFU.

    • Anonymous

      Did Apple originally create the desktop UI in the early 80s? Or did they see Xerox PARC’s design and copy it? Nonsense. Apple copied it.

      Not to say they didn’t copy it make it better, we can all agree they most certainly did. But the truth of the matter is that Apple did the same thing – heck, it’s what propelled them making the original Mac. 

      30 years later they feel the need to feel cheated that someone copied their design. 

      • Henrique Martins

        In fact, Apple PAID Xerox several thousand dollars for the visit to PARC. The whole “now-said-steal” story was APPROVED BY XEROX BOARD. Nevertheless, Apple invested a lot on R&D for the Mac. When they created the iOS GUI and look and feel, (that means icons and their disposal on the screen, as well as some other guidelines that, because of Android itself, Samsung cannot rip off completely) it was COMPLETELY HOME-MADE. Just a moron would say that “Apple copied LG Prada” or “There was tablets before the iPad”. Like Juliano said earlier, the tablets from CES 2010 were completely different (that means OS, battery life, weight and a lot of other specs) from the ones presented at CES 2011. Just because of the iPad.
        Personally, I see no crime on Motorola, HTC (…) devices. Normally, manufacturers decide to put these (crappy) interfaces over Android. They developed their own identity. HTC Sense, for example, shows a UI that is unique to the market. Motorola’s customization is more like the default Android, (even though MotoBlur is the single biggest crap on the mobile phone industry, apart from pre-Belle Symbian versions) but their look and feel is still unique. As you can see on the image, Samsung’s TouchWiz really rips off Apple’s look and feel. Even Galaxy S icons could be defined as versions of iOS icons.
        But is on hardware where Samsung copy thing really shines. The “all-new” Galaxy Ace Plus (you can search for it on GSMArena) is the most obvious copy of the 3G/3GS EVER. The back cover have the same shape, use the same materials, ARE THE SAME CRAP. At the same time, Motorola is building their hardware identity. (look at the Xyboard, the RAZR and the consistently rumored Droid 4) HTC has built their identity some years ago. They still use it and it’s not aged. Both Motorola and HTC do not try to rip off Apple on any way.
        And, for me, the touchscreen tablet and smartphone are not (and should never be) exclusive to Apple.
        Vincent’s argument is ridiculous, Apple is not suing all the phone/tablet industry: (at least because of rip offs)  THEY ARE SUING SAMSUNG!
        The biggest problem, in my point of view, is that Samsung is trying to steal Apple sales with the old “SAMSUNG’S IPHONE” argument. I’ve heard this from a Samsung rep here at Brazil. This is ridiculous, and really shows Samsung’s bad faith on that thing.
        I like Apple and Android phones themselves, but, apart from the Galaxy Nexus, I wouldn’t buy a Sammy smartphone, not only because the “superficial” copy thing, but because of the even bigger problem of Samsung of defining itself. They obviously copy Apple in their products (again, just an idiot would see differently) but say Apple fans are assholes on their TV ads. I don’t rely on something I don’t understand, and the same goes with Samsung.

  • Joo Joo

    Every manufacturer should not take it for granted. Back to the old time, Apple copied/inspired by XEROX GUI interface and earned huge success in creating first PC . But don’t forget, Apple paid millions to XEROX just to see the XEROX Pato Alto Research Labs, they did not purchased the GUI. But did samsung and others paid anything? None. If you’re guilty in copying others design or anything else, admit it. 

    I’m a samsung customer and to be honestly, inside the deep heart of mine i do know that there is certain % of my device is alike with iDevice. Other Samsung customer like me, agree?

    And in replied to the article above, Samsung is not trying to deceive customer to think that it is a iDevice. They made us think that “Hey, this samsung device looks like Apple, Specs is better than Apple and the price is lower than Apple!” As an ex-smartphone & tablet seller in southeast asia, thats what my customers told me.

  • Mike Hauer

    Samscum

  • Anonymous

    Galaxy note tops!
    Apple is a looser.

  • Anonymous

    Ahh Brownlee.
    You’ve finally found your sniche.

  • Anonymous

    Samsung is a thief…. a copycat and an exploiter of trade dress. In the end only the software will be different. By the time its all sorted out, Samsung will pay millions, but make billions, so why should one expect any change in behavior?

  • Anonymous

    Vincent’s argument hinges on Samsung not being a major component supplier for Apple with pre-release information about the devices…

    I suppose if you are trying to advocate a point of view, it is easy to ignore inconvenient facts. The rest of us will stick with a fact based reality.

    • Yacko

      Not to mention that fox in the hen house, Eric Schmidt on the Apple board of directors. They should have booted his ass to the curb as soon as the first android phone came out.

  • Anonymous

    Patents weren’t created to protect “style”. If it was, then the fashion industry would have patented “styles” for years. Fact is, you can’t patent or even copyright style… for good reason.

    As that is the entire CoM argument above, the rest of the argument is moot. Unless the icons are trademarked, copyrighted, or patented, the argument is dead.

    Still, continuing further, fine, I’ll accept that Samsung copied the icons… it still doesn’t speak to the original INTENT of copyrights and patents – to protect the innovative concept or idea. With that in mind, there are 2 arguments to be made:

    1) Copied icons. The icon is not the idea and doesn’t need protection (nor can it be, since it’s not something you can patent – you could trademark it, but Apple didn’t do that.) Still, the only argument that could be made is that the icon confuses people to think this is an Apple product, which it doesn’t either… the phone clearly says SAMSUNG on the face. Only an idiot wouldn’t realize that… and it only gets worse when you turn on the phone screen and see completely different homescreens.

    2) Stealing customers by an identical design. So, did Samsung copy the icons? Does it matter? Not one bit, since no one buys an iPhone to get a green phone icon or whatnot. Furthermore, no one who buys a Samsung device expects it to be an iPhone, even if it looks the same. Reference the rest of the argument made by CoA above. In the end, if the Samsung was a real copy of the iPhone, then they would be identical and work identically. Both Android and iPhone users admit they don’t work the same… so it’s not like Android copies can steal mindshare or sales from Apple… in the end, Apple is not harmed from this copy… so, back to the intent, what’s the harm? There is none. No one buying an Android “copy” thinks they are getting an iPhone. Even if some idiot did make that mistake, they could return it and get the iPhone they actually wanted.

    Needless to say, I agree with the Android stance.

    • David Clark

      How about Apple’s patent for touch-screen devices that they DID WIN, but has been blatantly ignored, because it was claimed to be “too general.” Well, gee, why grant the patent if it’s “too general?”

      With that, ALL arguments for the defense of any touchscreen device manufacturer other than Apple, are moot.

    • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

      “Stealing customers by an identical design. So, did Samsung copy the icons? Does it matter? Not one bit”

      But that’s the argument CoM is making with the Jackson analogy. Stealing a design is one thing, but the amount of copying Samsung has done goes beyond the norm. Stealing an EXACT look of an icon is one thing but copying packaging, cables, commercials, and now the Smart Cover goes beyond just inspired by another manufacturers successful products.

      Lady Gaga doesn’t have exclusive rights to wearing a meat dress but if you saw someone else copying every outfit she wore you’d call that person an impostor, and rightly so. 

      I agree that Apple is a lawsuit whore but going after patents is much more legitimate battle to fight versus fighting over style. 

      • Anonymous

        As I stated, I was going on the assumption that it WAS a copy, for the sake of this discussion. That is not what we are debating here. The question I posed is, does it affect the originator (Apple)? Using your example, does Lady Gaga become any less of an artist, or make any less money, simply because someone else puts on a meat-suit? Do people get confused and buy tickets to see the other meat-costumed person in concert? No. That’s the point… it makes no difference to Gaga… just like these “copycats” make no difference to Apple.

        Patents, copyrights and trademarks are there to protect the innovator from losses of identical copies. For example, a drug company loses money when someone copies their formula, because of all the money they spent to create it. In that case, the generic/copy works EXACTLY the same as the original… THIS is the reason these IP protections exist. But, in Apple’s case, the “copies” of their design are not causing this problem… because they don’t work the same. Everyone knows this to be true. Therefore, there is no damage to their business… and hence the “copy” doesn’t matter and shouldn’t result in lawsuits and such.

    • Anonymous

      Problem with your argument is that if icons aren’t part of the purchasing decision then does Samsung have to be so lame as to copy them.
      I happen to agree with you that icons are not that important which further highlights the fact that Samsung have completely no idea to what they are doing and are too scared to break away from Apple ideas too far and risk making a wrong decision. They remind me of the awkward kid who keeps making socially wrong comments because they have no idea how to act and what to say.
      Samsung are the equivalent of a corporation with aspergers disease.

      • Anonymous

        This is not a discussion of Samsung’s business choices, nor is the patent/copyright/trademark system setup to deal with those matters. It’s a discussion of whether this harms Apple in some way. The fact is, it doesn’t. The sooner companies see this, the sooner they can go on and innovate rather than play patent-trolling games that accomplish nothing.

        The root of the problem is that the current patent/copyright system is broken. The fact that you can patent such things in the first place is idiocy, since it makes no different to the INTENT of this system – to protect REAL innovations from blatant copies THAT HARM THE INNOVATOR. This latter statement has not been met in most (if not all) of today’s patent wars between any companies.

    • Yacko

      Let’s get to the packaging. Why copy the exact unboxing? Let me guess, there is only one way to liberate a soap bar shaped phone from a cardboard box?

      • Anonymous

        Again, what difference does it make? Does this affect Apple’s sales in any way? No, it doesn’t.

        I won’t get into the discussion of whether Samsung should do this or not… it’s irrelevant. The only question is, does this constitute any real “theft of customers” for Apple? It does not. That is ALL patents/trademarks/copyrights are there for… everything else is irrelevant.

        If the boxing and such were TRULY innovative and Apple wanted to protect them, they could have applied for a patent/copyright… and if granted (this one shouldn’t be, as it’s really just a simple box) then they’d be fine to complain. But they didn’t. Therefore it’s irrelevant.

  • Anonymous

    “Take the telephone for instance: 99% of all fixed phones are similarly designed.”

    The “Touch Tone” WAS patented, and for decades only Western Electric made them. Then the patent expired….

  • http://twitter.com/joshryandavis JRD

    Samsung isn’t the entire of Android. So as a fan of both iOS and Android. I say Samsung is a thief and deserves to be sued. Manufactures like HTC, Motorola and the rest seem to be able to come up with original designs. Why can’t Samsung?

    • Anonymous

      Well said

  • Anonymous

    Did Ford sue Chevrolet for making a car with 4 wheels and a steering wheel?

    Please. Such nonsense.

    • Yacko

      The early 20th century was litigation storm. Ask Edison. How do you know  there were no lawsuits over auto mechanics? As to 4 wheels, that would be prior art, but the exact method of creating steering might have been litigated somewhat.

  • Anonymous

    Hope Apple shapes their TVs like squares or circles – or Samsung could sue them.

    /tablesturned – shoeonotherfoot

    • Henrique Martins

      If Apple makes their TV (I don’t think they will make it) just like Samsung’s new sets, with the thin, curved stand on the left, I think a lawsuit would fit. It’s not just the geometric form of the product: it’s the entire look and feel.

  • Harvey Lubin

    Vincent Messina (Cult of Android) unconvincingly gives only his opinion of why he thinks that Samsung has not copied Apple. He does not dispute the existing factual evidence that can be seen with our own eyes (as in the examples given by John Brownlee).

    John Brownlee (Cult of Mac) makes his points convincingly by giving factual examples of how Samsung has blatantly copied Apple products… many times! A person would need to be blind and ignorant to look at these real examples, and say that Samsung has not copied Apple’s products.

    In any measure of debate, John Browlee has unreservedly won this argument by providing undeniable evidence, versus Vincent Messina’s unfounded opinions.

    • http://twitter.com/a1ux Marco

      Vincent Messina  is unable to understand that we are here for the Mac news and not for the Android news, further more seems that nobody in COM cares,  and seems to me that there is a strategy  to get publicity for COA trough COM.  I wonder why Messina closed the comments in his previous  2 post, is he afraid to hear what we think about publishing Android “news” here?

  • Anonymous

    Samsung jacked and ripped off apple so bad!!!! Its so obvious. Shameless man. From the smart covers to the package design. They fucking ripped apple off. Galaxy nexus is the one thing that doesn’t resemble an apple product. But it’s package design does. It’s such a cheap move. Will they ever have ideas of their own?????? I want to buy a galaxy nexus but I feel like I’ll be using a thieves phone. Motorola did their own thing in a very original way. Samsung ripped off apple and that’s why apple is winning in court. I hope apple destroys them!! Because if apple doesn’t win the consumer gets no innovation from Samsung. They get copied cloned products that are made out of shit plastic hardware.

    • shanos burgess

      hmmmm get a life and take a chill pill fella
      I have been in the mobile trade for years… apple did not invent a black rectangular phone… nor did they make the first touch screen phones… or rounded corners… or icons etc
      other manufacturers had these ideas years before apple… 
      Apple say that they are being copied I say that they need to look and thank the people who’s ideas they ripped in the whole mobile industry
      yes they polished the design but how much can you really change something as simple as a black rectangular object.
      if apple decided to make a car they would probably sue ford for having four wheels on their cars, because they would argue the alloys had a chrome trim around the outside edge and were also round!
      I love apple I have a macbook an iMac and an iPad I also have a galaxy s that I love it works great it weighs a lot less than an iPhone and the developer community is awesome.

      Stop beating up on samsung… and as for the if apple does not win the consumer gets no inovation from samsung… they don’t need to innovate they are making mobile phones however if you get a chance to check out the super amoled screens I would say they are a worthy contribution… the wheel has been invented and it does not need to be another shape or colour it just needs to work and be available to all that require it.

      if you want a nexus get one… if you want to wait a bit there will be better phones coming out shortly… or why not give the galaxy s a try you never know you may like it… especially if you put ice cream sandwich on (via xda forum developers) 

      I guess to sum it all up lets make love not war… the only people suffering are you and I in all of this, these patent cases etc all cost mega money and that will be passed on to you and I as higher pricing for handsets in the next round.

  • Anonymous

    My comments keep getting flagged because iSheep can’t handle the truth

  • Anonymous

    Ok, here’s a list of some of the stuff the original iphone didn’t have that other manufacturers did have prior to the release (that the iphone got later):
    1. App-store
    2. 3G
    3. Copy-paste
    4. Videocalling

    And here’s a list of what the original iphone had that no one had prior to its release:
    1. A simplified interface for use with fingers.
    And that is it. So who’s doing the copying here?

    • Yacko

       I like how you insinuate that since part 2 of your argument is just one bullet point, that obviously it must have only a quarter of the value of the previous four. Bravo! Well done!

      • Anonymous

        That is the opposit of what I’m saying, if I was saying that I could have made the list a lot longer.
        What I was trying to say was that the thing they have, where Apple are truly innovative, is the user interface. An area that is pretty much un-patentable. You can patent the underlying technologies or processes that makes a user interface possible, but if someone figures out how to do the same thing without those exact technologies you can’t do much about it.

    • http://twitter.com/markrlangston Mark Langston

      You do realize that no one’s arguing that Apple is claiming to have invented 3G or video-calling, right?

      I do take great issue with App Store though. The courts claimed the name was too generic. The problem was that Apple wasn’t trying to trademark the word “apps” just the name of their store. 
      Let’s not pretend that Amazon didn’t name their store “appstore” just because they thought it was cool. They copied the name because they understand the power of Apple’s branding and marketing. I agree with Apple and I think Amazon should’ve been forced to change the name.

      I’m sure you disagree and probably for the same reason as the courts, right? Too generic. Please direct your attention to Microsoft, who owns some insanely generic terms themselves. Windows. Office. Word. WORD FOR CRISSAKES!!! Be certain that if a company created an productivity suite of products and tried using the word “office” anywhere in the name that MS lawyers would send out hit men to kill everyone in the building including the janitor.

      Bottom line, companies copy Apple because they’re successful. If Apple didn’t innovate or had good ideas the this wouldn’t be an argument at all. I don’t see anyone defending Linux, which according to most enthusiasts is a smorgasbord of ideas stolen by both MS and Apple. Then again, when you’re stuff is free it’s hard to defend what’s rightfully yours. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Oskar-Wennersten/716248363 Oskar Wennersten

        I know they’re not trying to argue that they invented 3G or any of that stuff. But what they are doing is trying to sue the competition, using patents, in a business that they have only been in for four years while the competitors have been in the business for at least fifteen years. So, how much leverage can they have?

        About Office, you do know that Open Office and Libre Office are products that compete directly with MS Office, right? They can’t sue because Office is a generic term that existed long before computers, just like “application” or “app” for short. Just like Apple couldn’t sue if someone made a program called File Finder even though they have (as far as I know) trademarked the word Finder.

        Samsung did not copy Apple, they were inspired by Apple’s design and did something similar but they did not try to sell their phone as an Iphone, nor did they put an Apple-logo on their phone or did anything of the sorts. I’ve seen Iphone copies in China and that is something completely different.

  • Anonymous

    Firstly Apple made no secret of copying….they gave credit where credit as due and copied Xerox who made the mistake of not protecting their IP….they obviously didn’t realize they had a winner….Apple openly admits they took what they saw (after paying to see it) and ran with it.
    Samsung don’t even have the decency to admit they copied Apple because as a previous poster stated….Samsung have been doing it for years to all their competitors. I have a personal dislike to Samsung as I do to MS….they both lack imagination and only want to use others inspiration by copying and undercutting their competitors.

  • Anonymous

    Who areas…as long as they don’t put their logo on the bezel which is what Samsung’s does.

  • Anonymous

    Because they have nothing to protect. Most of them operate at the margins with ONLY cheap production line labor costs. They want an industry free of IP as copying is easier than having to think.

  • Anonymous

    “Sometimes a design comes along that just works and it becomes the inspiration for further innovation and development.”

    I think you miss the rather obvious point that Apple’s design of the original (and subsequent versions) of the iPhone just didn’t “come along.” It spent millions of dollars and several years in research and development working on various options and before what you see as the iPhone was released. Sure, to someone not involved, it might seem rather obvious. But clearly no one else was designing phones with these form factors prior to the iPhone.

    The beauty of what Apple produced is it seems “to just work.” That didn’t happen by happenstance. Jony Ive (the design guru at Apple would be the first person to tell you that.).

  • Anonymous

    No one said this was about patents. I certainly don’t in my argument above. What this is all about is IP, which DOES encompass a distinctive style, and IS protected by law, even if it can be hard to prove.

  • Anonymous

    About three sentences in I stopped reading this. That Android supporter can’t write, and pretty clearly doesn’t understand what irony is.

    The opening of the second paragraph is just amazing. “Okay, so is Samsung “copying” Apple? I’d have to say yes, and no.”

    Give me a break.

  • Anonymous

    No way. The iphone has a smaller screen than the Galaxy Nexus. So they aren’t copying. 

    • Anonymous

      The screen is larger on the Galaxy S so they aren’t copying? Look at their packaging and their USB charging cables. Nearly a line for line copy of the iPhone 4.

      • Anonymous

        …but but but, i toy. I would say that it’s so close it might as well be. Samsung is not doing anyone a favor here. It shows that Apple sets the standards. They’ll do it again and again and again in the future. 

  • http://twitter.com/TheTomanator Tom C

    I LOL’d at Vincent’s arguments.  If I didn’t know any better I’d think he was a Samsung shill.

    John nails the arguments quite well.  Rather than innovate (which Samsung is clearly capable of) Samsung has flat out copied Apple’s style without even trying to hide it.  Its bad for all of us, not just Apple.

    How ironic that their latest “innovation” is called SwipeIt.

  • http://twitter.com/chadclawson1 Chad Clawson

    The question is that is being asked is… “Is Samsung really copying Apple?”, however Vincent Messina doesn’t even dispute that. The whole time he is arguing whether or not it is okay to copy Apple. Obviously that is the position that he had to take because there is no denying that Samsung has been copying Apple for years now. If you deny that fact you are in DENIAL. There is no other way to put it. Just open your freaking eyes and look at all of the evidence that was presented by John  Brownlee. It is overwhelming.

  • BobFTW

    Dayam didn’t know there were such blatant Apple fanboy writers on an android site.

    Lets not forget, Apple ripped off the entire i-Product naming system.

    iAudio CW100 mp3 player came out a full year before the iPod. Then Apple has the gall to call them copycats. That is Apple.

    And the picture of the earphones wrapped around the mp3 player?

    Look up Samsung Uproar and Google, the world’s first phone with an mp3 player that also came out before the ipod.

    Tell me the Apple’s photo was not inspired from it.

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John BrownleeJohn Brownlee is news editor here at Cult of Android, as well as our sister site, Cult of Mac. He has written about a lot of things for a lot of different places, including Wired, Playboy, Boing Boing, Popular Mechanics, VentureBeat, Gizmodo, Kotaku, Lifehacker, AMC, Geek and the Consumerist. He lives in Somerville, Massachusetts with his charming inamorata and two tiny budgerigars punningly christened after Nabokov's most famous perverts. You can follow him here on Twitter.

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