Judge Denies Two More Samsung Pre-Trial Proposals, Uses Apple Patent Wording As A Definition

Judge Denies Two More Samsung Pre-Trial Proposals, Uses Apple Patent Wording As A Definition

A mere ten days before the scheduled patent infringement trial between Samsung and Apple, US District Judge Lucky Koh rejected two more proposals from Samsung, maker of Android enabled smartphones. Judge Koh entered a supplemental claim construction order in which two disputed terms are now defined. Unfortunately for Samsung, who initially requested the order, the definition decision favors Apple, using the Cupertino-based tech company’s definition in the dispute.

According to FOSS Patents, Samsung asked the court to clear up two terms: one from the “overscroll bounce” patent and one from the “tap to zoom and navigate” patent. Samsung asked that the term “electronic document” be defined as “content having a defined set of boundaries that can be visually represented on a screen,” while Apple grudgingly says that, for the purposes of this patent, is “a document stored in a digital format; for example, an ‘electronic document’ could be a web page, a digital image, a word processing, spreadsheet or presentation document, or a list of items in a digital format.”

The consistency of Apple’s definition across the different claims in the case was enough to convince Judge Koh to use the very similar definition as follows. She recorded the definition as “a document stored in a digital format. An ‘electronic document’ includes, but is not limited to, a web page; a digital image; a word processing, spreadsheet or presentation document; or a list of items in a digital format.” Which is to all intents and purposes Apple’s definition.

The second disputed term, “structured,” was also rejected by Judge Koh, saying that it needed no construction, or definition. Basically, the term itself has enough solid meaning outside of the case that the court would use the commonly accepted construction of the term. This was also one of Apple’s opinion on the term.

Samsung isn’t faring too well in any of the pre-trial court activities, unfortunately. As FOSS Patents’ Florian Meuller writes, “Samsung also didn’t prevail on any of its 12 summary judgment requests, while Apple prevailed on one of its three summary judgment requests.” It’s not looking super great for the Korean smartphone maker. Time and trial will tell, however, how this all pans out.

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  • Derail Doax

    Koh favors Apple… Surprise surprise, she probably owns an iPhone.

    • blusasuke

      hell she may own stock

    • hohopig

      :P perhaps even more.

    • http://twitter.com/justmeblue5ft3 justmeblue5ft3

      At first she did not, the threw it out and a higher level court and judge gave the case back to her.

  • Kr00

    Samsung should be made to post on their website the following. “We’d like to thank Apple for the big leg up in the smart phone race. Without your designs, we wouldn’t know where we’d be today”. Cheers.

    • hohopig

      really? I suppose you believed that Apple created the capacitative touch screen and is the one who came out with the first tablet computer?

      • Kr00

        No, but you fandroids like to think they did just to upset yourselves. Do yourself a favour and look at samsung phones when the iPhone was released and then what they looked like 9 months after. If they were trying to NOT copy the iPhone, they failed miserably. Just like your post.

        • techgeek01

          Samsung had the SGH-F700…
          Also Samsung had a touch based Prototype phone that was “shown” in 2005. Similar design to the F700, but white. It was “gesture” supported, meaning if you swyped this way or that you could do different things.

          • http://twitter.com/justmeblue5ft3 justmeblue5ft3

            The documents shown from the upcoming trial show Apple’s prototype of one from 2002. There are others.

          • techgeek01

            Out and about? Or not..?

            Samsung phone was shown. Not like’s apple’s that was in a locked and sealed bomb shelter where nobody could enter.

        • hohopig

          Haha, really? I did and I had HTC phone before the Samsung G2 and I have seen my wife use IPhone 3 – 4 before she convert to Galaxy as well. So I can tell you definitively that it does not look similar at all.

          As for convergence of shape, I don’t doubt that there are influences. Do you really think that J Ives came up with ALL the ideas himself without borrowing? All true scientist/artist/ designer and other creative types (yes I do think scientist do need a certain level of creativity, especially during the conceptualisation of the hypothesis part) stands on the work of previous giants so that they can look further and create something better, if you will pardon me paraphrasing a quote by Newton.

          So, everyone copies but important thing is add value and let me tell you G2 & G3 certainly adds more value for its customer than iPhone ever does, which is why it is increasingly easy to convince my family to convert to Android platform, the last one is my sis simply because she is tied in to a rather draconian contract for the iPhone when she signed. Then again, that is the Apple way, isn’t it? Limits, limits, limits and do everything the iFruity way or no way.

    • techgeek01

      The irony is: Samsung had touchscreen phones with (literally) the exact same look, before the iPhone. Even one that dates back to 2005/2006

      • http://twitter.com/justmeblue5ft3 justmeblue5ft3

        Documents are available online showing Samsung deposing Jonny Ive and the Apple prototypes from at least as early as 2002, there are others too look it up.

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